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Measles Reported in Central Iowa
Iowa Dep't of Health ^ | 5/24/11 | Ia Dep't Public Health

Posted on 05/24/2011 1:37:10 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa

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To: muawiyah

We are not talking about quarantines which I absolutely honor, we are talking about inoculations....or at least I was. Perhaps you are on a WHOLE different level.

Like I said, Life is fatal. So sue me.


41 posted on 05/24/2011 3:41:49 PM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: muawiyah

I never said anything about murdering people. You are building a strawman and a very flimsy one at that.


42 posted on 05/24/2011 3:44:39 PM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: colorcountry
You aren't talking about that, but you are trying to JUSTIFY IT.

That is evil and you know it.

43 posted on 05/24/2011 3:48:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

In the USA, Doctors kill more people each year than communicable diseases. I guess they are evil and so are you for JUSTIFYING it.

I’m done talking to you.


44 posted on 05/24/2011 3:51:59 PM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: muawiyah
Measles is associated closely with retinal detachment and blindness later in life.

Then entire generation that lived before the vaccine should be blind then.. the pharmaceutical companies love vaccines.. money in the bank for them and a diminished immune response for the the generations that were "spared" exercising it with childhood illnesses

45 posted on 05/24/2011 5:27:33 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Styria
We vaccinate for measles because there are people out there who cannot receive the shots who would die from measles, besides those who would just get complications from it. Herd immunity protects them.

There are more people that will die or be injured in a car accidents or skiing or on a motorcycle ..maybe we should outlaw cars, skis and motorcycles.. .. maybe we could make a nice sterile bubble for men to live in ??

Generations made it through whooping cough, mumps, measles , chicken pox and today have natural life long immunity.. that is against having a man made immunity that will at some point stop and leave the adult..possible a pregnant mother.. vulnerable to the disease..

BTW I am not a member of a "herd"

46 posted on 05/24/2011 5:34:25 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Well, yeah, have you seen the statistics on BLINDNESS in the United States?

Currently, according to a vast number of studies reported on the internet, measles is being blamed for retinal damage of all kinds, including detachment.

You didn't know that?

It wasn't an old wives tale that measles damaged eyes!

47 posted on 05/24/2011 5:41:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RnMomof7
If you are a human being you are a SOCIAL ANIMAL that prefers the company of it's own kind.

We do lots of things together ~ hunting being one. You get more game that way.

BTW, the vaccines EXERCISE your immune system ~ they don't just artificially create a defense. They actually cause the creation of antibodies that destroy the vaccine, but they also destroy the virus since it will have attachment points in common with the vaccine materials.

We also regulate the devil out of cars, skies, motorcycles and even sterile bubbles. We should always beware of assigning civil rights to a virus ~ millions die needlessly when that happens.

48 posted on 05/24/2011 5:45:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Well, yeah, have you seen the statistics on BLINDNESS in the United States? Currently, according to a vast number of studies reported on the internet, measles is being blamed for retinal damage of all kinds, including detachment.

LOL LOL In a group of 100 people over 60 most likely 75% or more have had measles and they are not all using white canes..

There are many causes for detached retinas and measles is not one of them .... measles are a risk to the eyes of an unborn baby.. years ago that rarely happened because most women had measles as a child.. but with artificial immunity that has worn off the unborn babies of 20 somethings are at greater not less risk today

49 posted on 05/24/2011 5:53:31 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Measles can cause loss of vision by several different mechanisms.

For instance, measles can cause a keratitis, inflammation of the cornea, that can result in scarring and opacities of the cornea.

Measles can cause a uveitis, inflammation of the internal structures of the eye, also resulting in loss of vision.

In severe cases, measles can cause an encephalitis, inflammation of the brain, that can lead to blindness and even death.

You are hanging your hat on the fact that the term "measles blindness" is restricted to damage to the cornea ALTHOUGH we knew measles can cause damage to the inner wall of the eye to which the retina is attached. That, in turn, can lead in later years to premature aging of those tissues, and with that, blood leaking in between the retina and the eye wall.

There are numerous other names for all sorts of eye injuries that can ultimately result in blindness.

50 posted on 05/24/2011 6:08:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RnMomof7

http://www.nei.nih.gov/eyedata/pbd_tables.asp will provide you with the current information regarding low vision and blindness in the United States by age group. Your 75% of old folks are definitely suffering and by the time you are 80 YOU ARE DOOMED!


51 posted on 05/24/2011 6:11:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tiki

>>The husband was just getting a fledgling business started when the kids got chicken pox, he got it from them and almost died.<<

That’s very sad but it’s also an anomaly. There are not “often” problems, but there is a risk associated with them. The problems are overblown. The poor dad must have missed out on chicken pox as a child. Pity.

I belong to five homeschooling groups, all of which do pox parties. I’m talking hundreds of families including military families. None of them have ever had a near death experience from chicken pox.

I vaccinated my girls but if I had to do it all over again, I would do the pox party.


52 posted on 05/24/2011 7:16:09 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

I thought measles was one of those things, like smallpox, thats been pretty much eradicated. That being said I had chickenpox as a kid but never got the measles, and Im 40 now.. so lets hope it doesnt start spreading everywhere.


53 posted on 05/24/2011 7:26:16 PM PDT by eak3
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To: MEGoody

In most cases, that is true, but measles can cause permanent damage and sometimes even kill. I know a child who is deaf due to a case of measles.

If a pregnant woman contracts German measles, it can kill the baby. There was even an Agatha Christie mystery based on this.


54 posted on 05/24/2011 9:47:19 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: colorcountry

“I disagree with you. Making laws that require people to immunize children against innocuous diseases like Chicken Pox has led to adults who were never exposed, thus opening them up to a more devastating disease in adulthood.

These enforced inoculations were the beginning of the citizens of the US giving away our freedoms over our own bodies, and our own health and healthcare. Welcome to Obamaworld.”

The scourge of conservatism is ignorance.


55 posted on 05/24/2011 11:37:20 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: tiki

< ‘______we know the Autism connection was totally faked.’>

Maybe yes, maybe no.
While everyone was looking at a vaccine/Autism connection (which could yet come up with a different scenario), other negatives/dangers about vaccines were pushed to the background.


56 posted on 05/25/2011 2:54:45 AM PDT by USARightSide
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Yeah,,, but they quarantined your house, right?

No, they didn't. I had them in the early 60s then the German measles a couple years later. Maybe it was due to a change in quarantine processes or something.

57 posted on 05/31/2011 7:49:53 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Yes. Because measles is highly contagious. Would you prefer they had said nothing until there was a death or two, and thousands sick?

The flu is highly contagious and kills people as well. Should every case of the flu be a health emergency?

58 posted on 05/31/2011 7:50:50 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

“Maybe it was due to a change in quarantine processes or something.”

I guess so. I had them ten years earlier.


59 posted on 05/31/2011 8:21:53 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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