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To: Hacklehead

“Nice straw man you set up to argue against.”

Not at all. All of those things are excesses committed in the name of the “War on Drugs”, in particular. None stand alone, including “no-knock searches”.

“I am not for any of the things you mentioned, however I understand the rationale for the no-knock warrant. Warrants involve judges and probable cause.”

Which are as fallible as any other human endeavor. There is no justification for even one incident like this...and there have been several. Even worse is the tangible lack of effect the “War on Drugs” has had despite all the expense and effort.

“As far as drugs are concerned, they ARE evil, destroy countless lives and are a major motive for crime and violence. Sorry you dont understand that.”

They are no more evil than any other inanimate object. It should be up to the individual what risks and experiences that individual chooses, not the state. Are you an alcohol user? Tobacco? Do you advocate prohibition in those cases as well?

“Nonsense. There is nothing wrong with “the war on drugs” that can’t be fixed by stripping out the unconstituional BS put in by scum*** politicians.”

LOL! Nothing wrong with it except that it’s been an abject failure by ANY objective measure, at the cost of countless billions of dollars and ruined lives. All of the “unconstitutional BS” has been added in a vain effort to make it more effective. Meanwhile, we have generated a civil war in Mexico, sent billions of dollars to unfriendly countries, boosted organized crime immeasurably here in the States, and reduced drug use by not one iota.

“BTW, what’s your alternative? Letting drug dealers run wild?”

Return all of the drugs to legal status, as they had before the ‘20s or so. No more drug dealers at that point, ‘cause there are no more profits at that point. Losing the taboo appeal will result in fewer users, not more. Maybe we can even talk parents into effectively educating their children about drugs, reducing demand even further.

The “cure” we’ve been trying for forty years against mind altering drugs is FAR worse than the disease.


110 posted on 05/23/2011 9:39:05 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

Exactly! Legalize drugs, they don’t hurt anyone...

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123 posted on 05/23/2011 10:17:40 AM PDT by TSgt ("Some folks just need killin'" - Sling Blade (2006))
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To: PreciousLiberty

““I am not for any of the things you mentioned, however I understand the rationale for the no-knock warrant. Warrants involve judges and probable cause.””

“Which are as fallible as any other human endeavor. There is no justification for even one incident like this...and there have been several. Even worse is the tangible lack of effect the “War on Drugs” has had despite all the expense and effort.”

All human endeavors are fallible, so should we end them? Mistakes happen and I think this was a mistake, not a premeditated mission to terrorize, tyranize or intimidate.

“Return all of the drugs to legal status, as they had before the ‘20s or so. No more drug dealers at that point, ‘cause there are no more profits at that point. Losing the taboo appeal will result in fewer users, not more. Maybe we can even talk parents into effectively educating their children about drugs, reducing demand even further.”

So drugs will be legal but there will be no one to sell them? That makes sense. No profit? A country full of addicted people will increase demand and the market will be huge. Someone will exploit it. The notion that fewer people will try drugs once they are legal is laughable, as is the notion of parents educating their kids. Talk about 40 years of failure.


124 posted on 05/23/2011 10:25:12 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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