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sand lake bar, “Sorry, the Muslim friends and family members I have are not Nazis, they love America. I’m wondering how many Muslims you actually know personally.”
I don't have any family members who are Muslims as you do, but I have known some Muslims personally, and what I learned from them is frankly... scary.
Most notably... My wife hired a bus driver about ten years ago for her activity program at a large multilevel retirement center. He was from Somalia and he was a Muslim. He hated America and everything that our country stands for. He was only here to make money to send back to his wives and many children in Somalia.
Most people had a hard time getting along with Abdul, but I treated him well and talked to him many times, because I wanted to know what made him and his friends tick. He confided in me on many occasions. By the time my wife finally had to fire him for lying and fighting with other employees and residents, I had learned a lot more than I wanted to about him and his friends. I can tell you that he had no sympathy in the least for the victims of the 9-11 attack on our country. He considered the perpetrators martyrs and admired them greatly.
I am not optimistic about large groups of Muslims in this country ever fully integrating and becoming true Americans. If anyone here wants to know how Abdul and his friends felt about us, they ought to watch the English comedy movie, Four Lions. It is available for “instant watching” on the computer through Netflix. It is meant to be funny, but some of the characters are chillingly accurate.
It is no wonder to me that you are here advocating a definition of “Natural Born Citizen” that is basically all inclusive. You have... according to you, Muslim family members and friends. I suppose that some of them would not be considered Natural Born Citizens by the majority of us on Free Republic. Maybe this is hard for you to accept?
Just two points. My belief about who is a natural born citizen comes from my schooling, which goes way back before I even knew what a Muslim was. Disagree if you like, but I’ll bet money that if the case was before the current US Supreme Court, a larger than 5-4 majority would rule in Obama’s favor.
My beliefs about Muslims also comes from my experience and my awareness that there are bad people in every social group (including white conservatives). Moreover, you’ll note that Muslims integrated quite well into American society for decades before the radical element reared its ugly head in the mid to late 1970s. I still maintain that the majority of American Muslims are just as loyal to this country as any other religious or ethnic group.