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N. Korean leader heading for southern China: sources (Yangzhou near Yangtze River)
Yonhap News ^ | 05/22/11

Posted on 05/21/2011 11:34:44 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

2011/05/22 13:07 KST

N. Korean leader heading for southern China: sources

BEIJING/TIANJIN, China, May 22 (Yonhap) -- A special train carrying North Korean leader Kim Jong-il appears to be heading south for Yangzhou of the southern Chinese province of Jiangsu, where his late father and North Korean founder Kim Il-sung held talks with then Chinese leader Jiang Zemin in October 1991, sources said.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.yonhapnews.co.kr ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; kimjongil; nkorea; yangzhou
I thought that he would go to Tianjin, not far from Beijing, and meet Chicom leaders there. It is just too much for Chia Head and Chinese to go to Beijing. Traffic would be held up in wide area of Beijing. Too much public exposure as well. However, he may have pulled another tactical surprise, and went all the way down to Yangzhou, despite his health which, while having improved, is still in trouble.

I hope this is not another misdirection and goes to yet another place. Media first speculated that it was Kim Jong-eun who was making the trip. Then it turned out that it was Chia Head. Then they thought that he will meet Chinese leaders in Changchun, but he stayed there overnight, and continued his westward journey . Then they believed that he would go to Beijing. Then Tianjin was mentioned. Now he is said to be heading down to Yangzhou. But who knows? He could disappear somewhere between Beijing and Yangzhou. In recent trips to China, he was frequently exposed to media, and apparently became more paranoid. Even Chinese cannot keep prying media out. He has to devise more elaborate deception to elude media, with the help of Chicom regime.

1 posted on 05/21/2011 11:34:52 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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So far he passed through:
Harbin -- Changchun -- Shenyang -- Beijing(or Tianjin?) -- probably Yangzhou??


2 posted on 05/21/2011 11:40:06 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Any speculation as to the health of the regime?


3 posted on 05/21/2011 11:46:15 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Chia Head checking into Holiday Inn in Mudanjiang, first night stay before reaching Harbin(top,) and checking out(bottom)


4 posted on 05/21/2011 11:47:50 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Sharing the stealth helo tail tech perhaps?


5 posted on 05/21/2011 11:52:12 PM PDT by acapesket
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They might give the NoK’s access to the technology to see wht can be done on missiles.


6 posted on 05/22/2011 12:01:06 AM PDT by Jonty30
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It is reported in a last couple of days that he purged State Security(secret police) chief and his cronies at the organization. He and 10 of his close associates were reportedly executed and 100 people were sacked and expelled to the country side. There has been a report or two suggesting that some agency-wide inspection was underway at the secret police. It turns out it was a "brutal inspection." He is said to be the only "Double Hero." He was named the Hero by the state twice for his service. However, Chia Head and his junior fear that his power has grown too big. Jang Sung-taek, Chia's brother-in-law and man in charge of junior's succession, also perceived him as his rival. The chief(called Ryu Kyong) got wind of this and stayed out of potential traps. However, Chia Head lured them out on the pretext of meeting at his residence. Once he was inside, Guard Bureau troops detained him. He was killed in a secret execution after some interrogation. His immediate family members and 50 relatives were all sent to prison camp.

Chia Head basically gutted the agency which is essential for his regime's survival. The organization is said to be badly weakened now.

This sends the very unsettling signal to other party elites. They are not even 'Double Hero.' One misstep or bad perception can kill them. Loyalty is not really a guarantee of their well-being anymore.

The question is, "Would they still throw their lot with Chia Head and his son? Would they go down quietly if they find themselves in a cross-hair of both Kim's ?"

7 posted on 05/22/2011 12:09:31 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2011/05/22/21/0401000000AEN20110522001700315F.HTML

(LEAD) N. Korean leader heading for eastern China: sources

BEIJING, China, May 22 (Yonhap) — A special train carrying North Korean leader Kim Jong-il appears to be heading south for Yangzhou, adjacent to China’s economic capital Shanghai, sources said Sunday, contradicting expectations that he would visit Beijing after departing from northeastern Chinese cities.

Kim began his secretive trip to China last Friday, when his train crossed the border and arrived in Tumen and Mudanjiang. On Saturday, the second day of his visit, Kim toured a car plant in Changchun, an industrial hub in northeastern China, before passing through Shenyang and heading south.

According to multiple sources, security has been noticeably tightened around the main train station in Yangzhou in the eastern Chinese province of Jiangsu, where his late father and North Korean founder Kim Il-sung held talks with then Chinese leader Jiang Zemin in 1991.

Kim is expected to arrive in Yangzhou late Sunday, if the city is his next destination.

The 69-year-old North Korean leader reportedly visited Yangzhou in 2001, when he traveled to Shanghai. At that time, Kim marveled at economic progress in Shanghai, which has transformed into a major economic powerhouse after decades of economic reform that lifted millions of Chinese out of poverty.

It was not clear whether Kim will again tour Shanghai on this trip, his third in slightly over one year. China and North Korea usually confirm the North Korean leader’s trip only after it’s over apparently due to security concerns.

The trip comes as Kim is seeking to further strengthen economic cooperation with China and cement his plan to carry out a third generation power exchange.

China is the North’s last remaining ally and benefactor and its support is widely seen as a key in maintaining stability in the North.

Kim, who inherited power from his father, has been grooming his youngest son, Jong-un, as his successor since he suffered a stroke in 2008.

He named Jong-un vice chairman of the Central Military Commission of the ruling Workers’ Party and a four-star general last September in what analysts believe is the clearest move yet to make him the North’s next leader.

Despite rampant speculation, it has yet to be confirmed whether Jong-un is included in the elder Kim’s 70-member entourage to China.

The trip also comes amid a flurry of diplomacy to boost cooperation in the region and as Washington is preparing to send a top envoy to Pyongyang to assess the food situation.

In Tokyo, South Korea President Lee Myung-bak and Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan met with Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao for their annual summit.

They expressed concerns over Pyongyang’s uranium enrichment program and called for the right dialogue atmosphere to revive the six-party talks on ending the North’s nuclear programs.

In November, North Korea revealed a uranium enrichment program that could serve as a second way of making nuclear bombs, aside from its plutonium reactor. Pyongyang claims the facility is for power generation.

The North has expressed its willingness to rejoin the nuclear talks that it quit in 2009, but Seoul and Washington demand Pyongyang first demonstrate its denuclearization commitment by action.

Seoul also wants Pyongyang to apologize for its two deadly attacks on the South before resuming the stalled nuclear talks that involve the two Koreas, China, Japan, Russia and the U.S.

Robert King, the U.S. envoy for North Korean human rights, is scheduled to travel to North Korea for five days from Tuesday.


8 posted on 05/22/2011 12:46:19 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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The moment a leader loses the sincere support of his minister’s, it’s only a matter of time.

China does not want a disaster on its hands and South Korea, as comparatively wealthy as it is to its neighbours, could not afford a sudden reunion.

I suspect that China is going to make Il an offer he cannot refuse, a nice pension and a retirement home and then China will make North Korea a province, not necessarily a real province, but one in practical terms. And then in an orderly fashion bring them up to speed.

Or this is going to end very badly for all around.

I’m guessing North Korea will be coming to a close within ten years.


9 posted on 05/22/2011 12:48:30 AM PDT by Jonty30
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A special train carrying North Korean leader Kim Jong-il.....

Strelnikov!

10 posted on 05/22/2011 3:41:54 AM PDT by edpc (I disagree. Circle gets the square.)
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Haven't heard that name for a long time.

Comrade Strelnikov and his Train


11 posted on 05/22/2011 4:51:15 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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Strelnikov! “Yes that’s him.”


12 posted on 05/22/2011 4:56:27 AM PDT by Shqipo (I am the unofficial originator of the Mega-Bump! Only use judiciously.)
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To: Jonty30

Interesting theory. I have thought about this for a long time. How would you get a people, “up to speed” when they have been so completely isolated and deceived by their government for generations? Seriously, they are like zombies.

Not being rhetorical here. I would really like to hear others feedback on what steps would you take to pull the curtain back and say... look ok... you screwed up, you trusted your government....


13 posted on 05/22/2011 5:53:33 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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There is no soft-landing for N. Korean problem, short of massive death drastically reducing the size of its population before the state breaks up.

It is entirely possible that N. Korea fractures. Then the regime in Pyongyang somehow holds out with the help of China, while other parts of country go their way. Similar to what we see in Libya. Gaddafi does not have any big power propping up his regime, but Chia Head regime does.

Whichever way it goes, once people feel that state can no longer control them, that is, they no longer have to fear the regime, people would slowly wake up, dazed and disoriented at first, and then explode.

14 posted on 05/22/2011 6:16:54 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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Too bad that Chia Pet did the trip before one of Korean speaking Freeper prank call him like last time LOL!


15 posted on 05/22/2011 8:48:49 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

TIGER that Dr Zhivago train Be nice LOL!


16 posted on 05/22/2011 8:49:36 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile")
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Somebody can call the hotel where Chia Head is staying now.

Yangzhou State Guest House

Address: No1.,changchun Road,Yangzhou,jiangsu,China,P.R.225002

Tel:(86-514)87809888

Fax:(86-514)87800009

www.yzybg.cn
17 posted on 05/22/2011 9:09:54 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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LOL! OH man I too late LOL!


18 posted on 05/22/2011 3:54:00 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile")
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