Posted on 05/20/2011 5:55:31 PM PDT by Graneros
A Tucson, Ariz., SWAT team defends shooting an Iraq War veteran 60 times during a drug raid, although it declines to say whether it found any drugs in the house and has had to retract its claim that the veteran shot first.
And the Pima County sheriff scolded the media for "questioning the legality" of the shooting.
Jose Guerena, 26, died the morning of May 5. He was asleep in his Tucson home after working a night shift at the Asarco copper mine when his wife, Vanessa, saw the armed SWAT team outside her youngest son's bedroom window.
"She saw a man pointing at her with a gun," said Reyna Ortiz, 29, a relative who is caring for Vanessa and her children. Ortiz said Vanessa Guerena yelled, "Don't shoot! I have a baby!"
Vanessa Guerena thought the gunman might be part of a home invasion -- especially because two members of her sister-in-law's family, Cynthia and Manny Orozco, were killed last year in their Tucson home, her lawyer, Chris Scileppi, said. She shouted for her husband in the next room, and he woke up and told his wife to hide in the closet with the child, Joel, 4.
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And another thing why is it the Swat team has hired their own attorney? Doesn't the county have their own attorney?
And why hasn't the warrent been released as required by law?
Getting them trained - programmed - to kill Americans without a second thought when the word comes down/
“and storming into known drug and gang fortified buildings and blowing away the known hardcore gangs,”
Excellent point! WHY are they NOT going after drug gangs, MS-13, etc. etc.???!!!
(Or maybe they are, and the gangbangers are quietly arrested at work/s;)
The Brown Shirts - scum given badges and guns and trained to kill at will with overpowering and over reaching force...basic training for Martial Law.
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_a978c23a-a40f-5d0a-a203-76b88ac67e86.html?mode=story
IMHO The victim was executed because he had damaging info on someone/thing/op within the LE organization. Witness neighbor said he heard 2 different auto weapons fired, 45 sec pause then 2-3 more rounds sounding like a shotgun were fired. Witnesses opinion of weapons used could be questioned but not the intent of several extra shots fired to finish the job. Other releases by PCSO indicate an officers weapon was accidentally discharged. I think the other Officers opened fire on that account and not to any supposed verbal threat by the victim. It would’t have mattered if the victim was a Saint or a Demon after the A/D, Swat provided their own reason for escalation. That the Vic held his fire through the door battering, A/D and final volley tells me he wasn’t sure who was busting in. He had doubts, he held fire. Same can’t be said of the certified professionals.
Who bangs on a door for 45 seconds when the situation warrants a swat team deployment? That doesn’t pass the smell test. Why are we getting info on what was seized in the raid after records were sealed? Smell test again. Why the info (from top link) that license plates were run? That tells me the LEO’s have a security leak and/or mole working in or for the dept. WHY? For whom? Too many holes, too many errors to think its a coincidence.
And my little jab for the evening- Why do we have a swat team running amok with full auto weapons to serve search warrants in crowded residential areas, and then require the Bortac unit, in the open desert, to use beanbag guns to subdue border bandits and smugglers? WTF???
The Honorable Jan Brewer
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NOTHING will happen from the governors office unless it can be connected to some political benefit for Brewer. NO politician, including Brewer, does anything unless it will benefit them in some way. So, it takes thousands of calls for an investigation to get traction. So, I encourage everyone reading this to write a letter expressing your concern and mail it, fax the letter as well, and call the office.
I can assure all, if any substantial amount of drugs were found in the home, the police down in Tucson would have broadcasted this to all.
The EMT team (his wife called 911) was only 1 block away and got there fast but WERE NOT allowed in. After 1 hour 14 minutes, they told them they weren't needed, he was dead.
In the meantime - did they do some gardening - as in planting?
Yes. They are NOT on our side, no matter what some might think. They will gladly round us up, quarantine us, execute us, whatever the case might be. All while wearing masks like some sort of 3rd world assassins or leftist revolutionaries.
The WOD is an absolute failure in all aspects.
The big pharma drug cartels have half the elderly hooked on their government approved drugs..And government approved alcohol has killed more than *any* drug ever produced.
Throwing millions of Americans in cages for having drugs is bull sh*t.
It’s so horrible.
And GOOD question about the bean bags!!!
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Come on over here and repeat your claim that people like this DESERVE to be shot and killed without a trial.
Looky there... Something we can agree on.
I was watching the city channel last week and saw one really good speaker on this topic. Youngish guy (20s or 30s), and really well spoken.
You bet yer a$$ they were gardening. Question is were they planting or harvesting?
Good question.
Shame there doesn't seem to be a single DA or federal prosecutor who will take this-
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000242----000-.html
-to heart.
What is the governor of Arizona doing?
Does John McCain not have an opinion on this?
What about the Arizona State Police?
Or does everyone have their finger up their sphincter?
Got that right.
Provide these brain/conscious-dead people with guns and badges, a 'gang' - AND masks - they will do things even THEY probably never thought they would.
Hitler's goons knew it - so do the goons trained in Sol Alinsky.
There is a simple answer here...which I think states ought to start considering...bonded requirements for raids. You as the chief of police want to raid someone’s private home with SWAT guys? Before you even come to the Judge for paperwork....you produce a stamped bond document. You post $5 million in a bond for a situation if you screw up. I’m guessing the city council will began to look at these expenditures and costs....and start to limit your authority after a while to conduct private raids. This is the only way that we will eventually stop all this SWAT business.
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