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Tucson SWAT Team Defends Shooting Iraq Vet 60 Times
ABC News ^ | May 20, 2011 | ELLEN TUMPOSKY

Posted on 05/20/2011 5:55:31 PM PDT by Graneros

A Tucson, Ariz., SWAT team defends shooting an Iraq War veteran 60 times during a drug raid, although it declines to say whether it found any drugs in the house and has had to retract its claim that the veteran shot first.

And the Pima County sheriff scolded the media for "questioning the legality" of the shooting.

Jose Guerena, 26, died the morning of May 5. He was asleep in his Tucson home after working a night shift at the Asarco copper mine when his wife, Vanessa, saw the armed SWAT team outside her youngest son's bedroom window.

"She saw a man pointing at her with a gun," said Reyna Ortiz, 29, a relative who is caring for Vanessa and her children. Ortiz said Vanessa Guerena yelled, "Don't shoot! I have a baby!"

Vanessa Guerena thought the gunman might be part of a home invasion -- especially because two members of her sister-in-law's family, Cynthia and Manny Orozco, were killed last year in their Tucson home, her lawyer, Chris Scileppi, said. She shouted for her husband in the next room, and he woke up and told his wife to hide in the closet with the child, Joel, 4.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: clarencedupnik; corruption; dupnik; guerena; swat; swatteam; tucson; tucsonswatteam; tyranny
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To: Borax Queen

You screw up even half that bad in private business and you’re fired, and subsequently served with papers. Any real man who committed an act like this would end his own life after making everything which was his, part of the survivors of the family. But there are very few honorable people in law enforcement. Their honor is only to each other, their power, and paycheck.


21 posted on 05/20/2011 6:07:49 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

“This Sheriff murders Americans but will not arrest Illegal Aliens.”

Very good point indeed.


22 posted on 05/20/2011 6:08:30 PM PDT by Graneros ("Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.")
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To: Graneros

The “fine” work of Sheriff “Dipstick” Dupnik. What an @ss.


23 posted on 05/20/2011 6:08:57 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: dljordan

e.g. Waco -—> OKC ?


24 posted on 05/20/2011 6:09:47 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Thumper1960

Labor Union thugs with badges and guns.

I’m not suggesting that all law enforcement officers are bad. After all, several of my family members are, but a lot of these thugs are just criminals posing as cops.


25 posted on 05/20/2011 6:11:00 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: Graneros

Didn’t something similar happen to a vet in Las Vegas? In a Sam’s club or something?


26 posted on 05/20/2011 6:11:05 PM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: Graneros

Dupnik = dipshit


27 posted on 05/20/2011 6:12:02 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Graneros

Reportedly, they shot Osama bin Laden twice, or four times, depending on who you believe which day.

They shot this veteran more than 60 times.

Why?

Because a Marine is more dangerous.

Black humor. I find this shooting to be deeply disturbing.


28 posted on 05/20/2011 6:12:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (GOP mantra: 'Repeal and replace.' Translation? 'We can do socialism better than the Democrats.')
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
"Dynamic entry teams poised at the ready to save us from ourselves without warning or mercy. "

As someone else here pointed out, they can git yur guns after they pass through the IEDs.

29 posted on 05/20/2011 6:12:42 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Thumper1960
"I’ll bet they all get promotions"

Citizens can prevent that.


30 posted on 05/20/2011 6:16:01 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: blackdog

i agree. if only there was one honorable man on that SWAT team, maybe a vet, who would tell the truth.
...if she saw one outside, they must have seen her. yet they still stormed that house, with a woman and child inside. (and the wife, and neighbors, say there were NOT sirens, etc.!)
...the vet, after getting his wife and child to safety, was killed with his safety on. (the police admitted that!).
...and he was alive when the wife came out of the closet. (indicating the original 7 bullets was more correct).
the wife CALLED 911 ! and begged them to send medics. the SWAT team, apparently couldn’t “secure” the tiny house, that the Vet had only purchased and moved into 2 months before.
so they refused to let the medics in. then, 1 hour and 14 minutes later, they told the medics standing by, they could go home, because the “suspect” was dead.
...those “policemen” sat there for over an hour, while a veteran bled to death. a veteran they later admitted, had nothing on his record but parking tickets...


31 posted on 05/20/2011 6:17:21 PM PDT by Elendur
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
This Sheriff murders Americans but will not arrest Illegal Aliens.

This SWAT crap is out of hand nationwide.

People like this are effing crazy and have no business in law enforcement or being anywhere near firearms.

This is the mentality that led to Ruby Ridge and Waco.

32 posted on 05/20/2011 6:18:41 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Every day we now throw away things people will kill for after TEOTWAWKI)
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To: This Just In
"II’m not suggesting that all law enforcement officers are bad. After all, several of my family members are"

You should suggest that because they are. Even if related to you.. or me.


33 posted on 05/20/2011 6:19:15 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Good post, Doc..


34 posted on 05/20/2011 6:19:20 PM PDT by sternup
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To: Graneros

Disturbing ping.


35 posted on 05/20/2011 6:19:41 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: blackdog

Yup. And then the cushy pension/lifetime benefits and double-dipping (like the former police chief here in Tucson).

The current police chief supported the La Raza Marxists when they shut the school board down a few weeks ago. No arrests, nothing. Wouldn’t want his “people,” illegal aliens or not, to get upset or slowed down in their reconquista.


36 posted on 05/20/2011 6:20:01 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Thumper1960
It appears that, lately, there have been a lot of derelicts given weapons and badges.

Don't know what they are, but they seem to have mighty twitchy trigger fingers.

37 posted on 05/20/2011 6:22:08 PM PDT by Ole Okie (++++++++)
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To: Graneros

Questioning the actions of government is what the press should be doing. This Sheriff should be removed from office for trying to control the media.

I wish ALL of the media would question the acts of ALL the government ALL of the time.


38 posted on 05/20/2011 6:23:24 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Graneros

SWAT teams need to go away. If they were being used the way they were sold to the citizens, and storming into known drug and gang fortified buildings and blowing away the known hardcore gangs, I would have a different opinion.

They are not used at all the way they were sold to people.

All cops know where the drug hideouts and gang buildings are in their cities. The fact they are not taking these people down and shooting them the way they shoot individual citizens who believe their home is being invaded is evidence they need to go away.

they will not go away, as this is part of the globalization plan of turning each nation’s police force into internal security forces. State Dept Pub 5277 Freedom From War.


39 posted on 05/20/2011 6:24:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Borax Queen

Marines who have served should form a flash mob at an event in Tuscon. Something like they bring his wife and kid to a public place where law enforcement is doing their own hoorah thing and is suddenly faced with five hundred marines who just arrived from thin air, saluting his wife and handing her a flag.


40 posted on 05/20/2011 6:27:52 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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