[trisham]

using a condom to stop the creation of life... which otherwise would have been created, still results in the stopping of that life.

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You're making my point. Contraception interferes with the creation of life. It is therefore pro-choice/pro-abortion.

[sten]

i believe you are agreeing with me on what i would call strict, or absolute, pro-life

i’m not on board with that. i do not believe good fruit can come from seeds planted by evil acts. that said, i still believe the choice is up to the individual... and should be agonized over.

the difference between the two positions isn’t nearly as great with the pro-abortion crowd.