First Post-Huckabee Iowa Poll ShowsCain And Bachmann Big Winners

Iowa Report ^ | May 18, 2011 | Grassroots Action

[Stymee]

Herman Cain and Michele Bachman appear to be the big winners following the decisions by Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump to not enter the presidential race, according to a new poll of Iowa conservatives. Meanwhile, last week’s presidential announcements by Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich did not resonate with Iowa conservatives.

[diogenes ghost]

"This isn't a poll. it's an internet straw poll, which is more worthless than regular straw polls,"

Did you go to the link? Did you see it is restricted to Iowa residents?

Or are you just pissed that whatever candidate you tout didn't make the grade?

[rideharddiefast]

The more conservatives in the race, the better.

As long as it does not split the conservative vote and help anti-American surrender monkeys like ron paul.

[Sic Parvis Magna]

I have seen this poll before (I follow Cain's twitter feed and they've touted this internet straw poll previously) and commented on it here. I don't think straw polls are worth very much regardless of who wins them. The exception would be the Ames Straw Poll which has a fairly good track record, because it involves more than internet support, but real organization, which will translate over the course of the campaign. Let's see how Cain does there before we tout him as king of Iowa, because from polls which have an actual methodology, Cain is not doing all that well in IA.

And personally, I haven't been all that impressed by the current field, nor is the field settled yet, so I'll wait to see all the candidates, compare their records and positions on the issues before backing anyone or not backing anyone.

[Sic Parvis Magna]

I’ll go back and look. Could’ve happened and I missed it, but most of the polls I saw had Romney far ahead of the field. Could’ve have been an outlier though; I don’t always pay much attention to those.

[Finny]

Sounds like an American champion. I like his story, and I believe his story.

[conservativebuckeye]

I agree that he will have trouble in IA and SC, but the edge he has in fundraising and organization scares me. It’s a bigger advantage than he had 4 years ago. There was an idiot who called Rush on Tuesday and said that Mitt was an across the board conservative. What bothered me just as much is that Rush was somewhat agreeing with him.

[conservativebuckeye]

If we have five or six viable conservatives and the moderates have Romney, Romney wins. You’re right about one conservative having a target, but more than 3 with decent support almost assures us of a RINO, which would probably be Romney.

[conservativebuckeye]

Think about what a great story it would be if Herman Cain won. A conservative black man from the deep south defeating the first black president. I would love it.

[LS]

The thing about money is, it only goes so far. Ask Steve Forbes, by far the richest guy in the race in 1996 or 2000-—I forget which-—and Phil Gramm in 1996, either of whom had far more money than Dole. Gramm couldn’t win a single primary. I agree organization is key-—which I why I think Palin cannot win the nomination-—but it has to face certain realities. I don’t think anyone with even the best organization can afford to lose two of the first three primaries/caucuses and win. Perhaps it’s been done. Fieldmarshal, want to weigh in? You’d know this.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Well, you already know my opinion on this subject. Slick Willard will use his money to buy support and supporters, but that is contrasted with Palin who doesn't have to buy support or fabricate her credentials. With respect to Forbes and Gramm back in the '90s, Forbes was too wonky and lacked political experience and Gramm's problem was one of superficiality... his looks. Didn't matter his expertise or experience, folks weren't going to nominate someone who looked like him (I believe I cast a vote for Ambassador Keyes, but I was under no illusions that it was a protest vote). That's the problem with figuring politics, it's an inexact science with lots of illogical components.

[conservativebuckeye]

To my knowledge, it hasn’t been done. However, it’s conceivable that a different person wins IA, NH, and SC. It’s not likely, but it’s possible. South Carolina and Florida are far and away the most important states in the primary process.

[Galactic Overlord-In-Chief]

Are we talking strictly Republicans? Bill Clinton finished third in Iowa, second in New Hampshire, but went on to win the nomination. Although, I probably would be remiss if I didn’t point out Clinton lost to basically home-town or near-home town candidates in each state.

[conservativebuckeye]

Good point. I thought of Clinton, but I figured we were just talking about the Republican primaries.

[LS]

Ok, but then you get into the issue of Romney’s Mormonism, which also offsets his $$. My point is that people here overestimate his $$, which only goes so far.