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The finality of firearms use (mild barf alert)
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| Lance Ausing
Posted on 05/19/2011 4:07:19 AM PDT by rellimpank
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--several of the commentors demolish this argument--
To: rellimpank
This article is full of so much BS I don’t know where to start. So, I’ll leave it at this. Lance is a lying, wimpy clown with no concept of real life or defending yourself despite his claims of “being in the military”.
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posted on
05/19/2011 4:19:56 AM PDT
by
Scotsman will be Free
(11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
To: rellimpank
This guy must think that people who carry concealed will shoot at anyone that looks at you askance. It’s the same lame argument time and time again. People will shoot each other when they bump shopping carts in the grocery store. etc...etc...
To: rellimpank
There is a finality when you pull the trigger; no doubt. And having never done it, I have no idea what it's like to have to live with taking a life. But I'm pretty confident when I say the following: if I ever did have to pull the trigger on someone who is attempting to do me or a loved one of mine great bodily harm or worse -- I think the finality of protecting myself or my loved one, against letting that person commit that crime against me or my loved one, would be something I could live with.
What it all boils down to is good versus bad. I'm a law-abiding, peaceable person; the one attempting to commit the crime against me or my loved one is obviously not. I win, he loses; end of story. I go home, he assumes room temperature. That's the way it ought to be. Not a rosy ending, but one that's better than the one that WOULD HAVE BEEN had I not pulled that trigger.
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posted on
05/19/2011 4:37:44 AM PDT
by
Jerrybob
To: rellimpank
A sad fact of life is that the “finality thing” is the only thing that keeps some people in line...
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posted on
05/19/2011 4:44:06 AM PDT
by
LRS
("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
To: rellimpank
“God created men equal, Col. Colt made them equal...”
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posted on
05/19/2011 4:44:13 AM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." A. C. Clarke)
To: rellimpank
Ask law enforcement officers, and they will tell you how heavily that weighs on them each and every time they strap on their firearmsAnd then there are the SWATs who revel in the possibilities that are opened up to them on every raid. Citizens need firearms and intense training to resist the SWATs.
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posted on
05/19/2011 4:45:14 AM PDT
by
arthurus
(Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
To: Scotsman will be Free
If the author is so plagued by uncertainty to the degree that he is personally unwilling to ever defend himself with potentially deadly force, that is absolutely his decision to freely make. He is also free to present his argument in a public forum. But neither he nor the state has any right to DICTATE the conduct of any other citizen in such regards.
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posted on
05/19/2011 4:46:59 AM PDT
by
Senator John Blutarski
(The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
To: rellimpank
“I believe firearms have no business on anyone’s hips - concealed or otherwise.”
That’s his closing. The man is clearly cranio-rectal.
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:06:17 AM PDT
by
668 - Neighbor of the Beast
(America is in dire distress and nobody is lifting a finger except to strike the keyboard.)
To: rellimpank
I won't go into detail, but I fully understand the finality of "pulling the trigger". That action is not for being "dissed" on the streets, but that is not when lawful concealed carry citizens pull the trigger. It is for situations when there is an immediate threat to your own life or safety or that of another. In that situation, I am 100% in favor of solving the problem permanently. One should have thought about that situation in detail and already made the decision on whether to shoot and where to aim. One should shoot to put an end to the threat (nothing more than ending the threat even though that's the same point of aim as shooting to kill, but one should never say the intent was to kill). After stopping the immediate threat, one should say as little as possible beyond that it was self-defense to stop an immediate threat, if one says even that much, then shut up except for talking to a good lawyer with experience in that area.
Afterward, there may be guilt, but that is misplaced. The world is a better place without the sort of pedophile who breaks into a home, without an armed robber or carjacker even if that thug was "a good boy who was just turning his life around", or without a rapist. Stopping the threat is a good deed and far more effective than locking up a predator for two or three years of weightlifting.
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:07:39 AM PDT
by
Pollster1
(Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
To: Senator John Blutarski
True. He’s still a lying clown.
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:07:46 AM PDT
by
Scotsman will be Free
(11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
To: Jerrybob
No, no, no. Just tase them or use pepper spray you barbarian. According to Lance not only is your life to be endangered by the criminal and his actions you are to risk it further by taking half measures so as to not harm the poor widdle cwiminal.
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:10:18 AM PDT
by
Scotsman will be Free
(11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
To: arthurus
Don’t forget the BATF agents that shoot unarmed women in the head while she is holding her baby.
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:10:43 AM PDT
by
freedomfiter2
(Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
To: rellimpank
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:20:35 AM PDT
by
absolootezer0
(2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
To: rellimpank
This does not pass the smell test from the gitgo.
It’s total made-up BS IMHO.
BTW—all this so-called “non-lethal” stuff is ILLEGAL, TOO. Remember how well it all worked on Rodney King?? I’ll take my old friends Smith and Wesson any day.
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:22:07 AM PDT
by
Flintlock
(Photo IDs for voters: Let the dead rest in peace!)
To: rellimpank
I find it odd that a man that has taken an oath to defend the constitution completely ignores said oath while arguing against the constitution.
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:23:00 AM PDT
by
Durus
(You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
To: freedomfiter2
Dont forget the BATF agents that shoot unarmed women in the head while she is holding her baby. BATFAG JBTs have initiated much of the illegal and unecessary violence and carnage directed at innocent U.S. citizens, particularly during the Clinton/Reno Reign-of-Terror, but in the case of the unwarranted assault on Ruby Ridge, it was a FBI HRT sniper named Lon Tomohisa Horiuchi (born 9 June 1954) that murdered Randy Weaver's wife as she was holding her baby in her arms.
As far as I know, he was never prosecuted for the murder (what a surprise).
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:25:33 AM PDT
by
DocH
(Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
To: rellimpank
But I can tell you that once the trigger is pulled, the bullet never comes back. A silly statement by the author as it's....
Not Always True
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:26:07 AM PDT
by
edpc
(I disagree. Circle gets the square.)
To: rellimpank
Certainly, the use of deadly force should be contemplated. But, contemplated way in advance of having to use it. As far as I am concerned, the thug/rapist/murderer is the one who made the choice. And, it was their choice to make, and not mine. Leave me and my family the hell alone, or get shot. It’s a simple choice.
To: Durus
It's a liberal thing. I've tried to understand how a liberal can hold two completely opposed ideas in their head. I've come to the conclusion that they can't. It breaks some part of the logical brain that processes and responds to facts and reality.
They should all be on thorazine.
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posted on
05/19/2011 5:37:56 AM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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