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Gingrich knocked by right on healthcare
The Hill ^ | May 16, 2011 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 05/17/2011 10:21:27 AM PDT by CutePuppy

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People shouldn't confuse Paul Ryan's budget with the Medicare reform... or attempt to combine the two in one piece of legislature, which may lead to accomplishing neither.

Gingrich seems to understand that just because ObamaCare is unpopular and is going to down to defeat doesn't mean that "reforming" entire Medicare system can or should be done from the budget, at the same time. Putting Medicare reform into the budget process will only confuse and lose the support of a lot of the people who otherwise would be for Ryan's budget. In fact, putting Medicare reform into the budget process is jeopardizing both the budget fight and Medicare reform.

Do the budget, defeat ObamaCare in states and in courts and then there will be a natural need for reforming Medicare where several ideas, including running of Medicare by the federal government entirely (possibly by only giving block grants to states).

Keep it simple, GOP. First, do the budget. Second, defeat ObamaCare and win elections with Medicare and entitlements reforms in the platform. Third, when elected, reform entitlements.

1 posted on 05/17/2011 10:21:30 AM PDT by CutePuppy
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GOP's big Medicare gamble - The Hill, by Julian Pecquet and Bob Cusack, 2011 May 17

Republicans on Capitol Hill may be in the process of learning a hard lesson: Meddling with Medicare, whatever the nation's fiscal circumstances, just isn't popular.

They are feeling the heat now because of House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) controversial plan to turn Medicare into a type of voucher system. Presented as a serious attempt to fix the program's projected shortfalls, the proposal instead appears to have turned the political tide back toward the congressional Democrats, who were on the ropes after last November's midterms.

Fifty-three percent of voters recently surveyed by The Hill said they would not accept any reduction in Medicare benefits even if doing so 'would help get the national debt and federal deficits under control.'

Medicare also appears to have boosted Democratic nominee Kathy Hochul's campaign in the special election in New York's 26th District. Recent polls show her competitive or slightly ahead of Republican nominee Jane Corwin, although a Tea Party candidate complicates the handicapping of that race.

"I think the Ryan budget has given us the impetus," Hochul told MSNBC last week. She added that, in conversations with voters in the upstate district, conservatives and liberals alike "were talking about two things: jobs and protecting Medicare. And the Republicans in Washington appear to be tone-deaf to that."

The GOP on Capitol Hill may be belatedly getting the message, however.

Last month, it seemed like House Republicans were intent upon charging ahead with the Ryan proposal. Despite Democratic attacks - including one from the president himself - only four Republicans defected when the measure came to a vote.

Republicans suffered through some testy town halls during the April recess - and the party leadership appears to have retreated on the issue ever since.

House leaders do not plan to put Ryan's blueprint into authorization legislation. Senate Republicans, meanwhile, have introduced a deficit-cutting bill that calls for more Medicare spending than Obama has embraced.

Republicans accuse Democrats of trying to scare seniors by attacking their Medicare plan, but political analysts note the GOP was doing the same thing to Democrats last year. The GOP seized on $500 billion in Medicare cuts in President Obama's push for healthcare reform to attack Democrats. The criticism nearly torpedoed the entire measure, and helped Republicans win the House last fall.

The success of the attacks, which have a history that goes back well before the Obama healthcare law, creates legitimate questions over whether it's possible for the political system to agree to changes to Medicare despite the budgetary implications of doing nothing.

"When the other side says 'Cut Medicare spending,' Republicans and Democrats say, ˜That's unconscionable,'" said Joe Antos, a former health adviser at the Congressional Budget Office now at the American Enterprise Institute.

Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas), a longtime member of the House Ways and Means Committee, said some on Capitol Hill believe the “4th of never" is an ideal time to revamp the popular entitlement program.

"I think it's always been the third rail," said Rep. Rob Andrews (D-N.J.).

And while most current members were not serving then, many veteran lawmakers remember the miscalculation Congress made in 1988 when it enacted a law to provide catastrophic illness and prescription drug benefits, partly by requiring the wealthiest seniors to pay more.

In the summer of 1989, then-Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dan Rostenkowski (D-Ill.), was confronted and chased down a Chicago street by angry seniors. The law was soon repealed.

Even more infamously, five years later, Hillary Clinton's healthcare bill crashed soon after takeoff partly due to concerns over how it would affect senior citizens.

These failures are all the more frustrating for many policy-makers because there is, in fact, broad agreement on the need for reform.

is growing that Medicare will go broke unless the body politic takes action. In their annual report released on Friday, the program's trustees said Medicare will run out of money five years earlier than previously estimated because of the ailing economy.

"Projected long-run program costs for both Medicare and Social Security are not sustainable under currently scheduled financing," the trustees wrote, "and will require legislative corrections if disruptive consequences for beneficiaries and taxpayers are to be avoided."

Republicans are barely able to contain their dismay at what they perceive as Democratic politicking on the issue.

"Where is the criticism of Democrats for not even being willing to look at entitlements and do something to try and bring those under control?" Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) asked plaintively on MSNBC last week. "Medicare is $38 trillion in unfunded liability."

In a sign of increasing panic, Dick Morris, a columnist for The Hill, recently wrote GOP leaders should allow their members a new vote to repudiate their support for the Ryan Medicare reforms.

"House freshmen, if they wish to become sophomores, must demand that Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) set a vote that permits them to undo their support for the Medicare portion of the Ryan budget," wrote Morris.

Yet, for all the challenges, it is possible to make changes to Medicare and survive.

Medicare was significantly overhauled on a bipartisan basis in 1997, during former President Bill Clinton's second term. Clinton, working with a Republican Congress, passed the Balanced Budget Act, which included a slew of reforms that bolstered Medicare's solvency.

Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.), a longtime member of the House Ways and Means Committee with jurisdiction over Medicare, predicts Medicare reforms will eventually pass.

Pressed on when that will happen, McDermott responded, with a smile, "Democracy reacts when the people speak."

2 posted on 05/17/2011 10:23:24 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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Any Republican who sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi to fight global warming is simply too stupid to be president. One can have twenty university degrees and still be stupid.


3 posted on 05/17/2011 10:26:26 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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Hey Newt, go cry on Nancy Pelousy’s shoulder.


4 posted on 05/17/2011 10:26:40 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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Don’t dis St. Paul Ryan, Newt. You’ve lost it forever with me and mine.


5 posted on 05/17/2011 10:30:25 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: CutePuppy

The article is improperly titled. Gingrich is the aggressor here, and attacked the right. He has become a pitiful example of what not to do with one’s life and honor.


6 posted on 05/17/2011 10:31:49 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Your party left you.)
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The fire isn't so "friendly".


7 posted on 05/17/2011 10:32:47 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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“I think it's fair to say that ... one of the tests on the campaign trail is going to be whether I have the discipline and the judgment to be president," he said. “I think that's a perfectly fair question."

It's a fair question that has been answered.

8 posted on 05/17/2011 10:33:21 AM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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9 posted on 05/17/2011 10:34:16 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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Fiberglass and horse’s ass.


10 posted on 05/17/2011 10:35:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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Newt is done. He thought he could skate by on his phony intellectualism into the WH. If he isn't smart enough to know that this BS towards a real star like Ryan was poison to the base, how smart is he really? Lets not forget that this guy is a Progressive all the way. Back in GA in the 70's he was a huge RINO. Before that Newt was a Rockefeller supporter for Pres. Worked for his campaign. His short dalliance with solid Conservatism was as fleeting as any of his marriages. People are not going to take this moderate/ wishy washy BS anymore.

"You’re an embarrassment to our party."

11 posted on 05/17/2011 10:36:48 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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Gingrich needs to go to the range with a photo of hisself and Pelosi on the couch and show us a tight grouping centered just above his shoulders (in the picture - though Newt does seem to attract ricochets).


12 posted on 05/17/2011 10:36:52 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Gingrich?

“As far as I’m concerned, just take him out and shoot him.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/10/cokie-on-polanski-just-take-him-out-and-shoot-him.html


13 posted on 05/17/2011 10:40:02 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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about makes me puke.


14 posted on 05/17/2011 10:40:53 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Lazlo in PA

I heard Mark Levin interview Newt last night. I heard leadership, command of the issues, and substantive positions - oh wait, THAT WAS DR. LEVIN!

We need to go deeper in the roster. Newt could be a good distraction for a while, could be a good sparring partner with a better candidate, but otherwise... not interested.


15 posted on 05/17/2011 10:50:11 AM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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He understands conservatism well, but he has Bush disease - he just wants to be part of the intelligentsia and loved by the MSM too much. So while his instincts seem right, every so often his inner RINO pops out.

He’s like the smart guy raised in church who knows his bible backwards and forwards, but inside would rather not be in church at all.


16 posted on 05/17/2011 10:52:23 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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Newt needs to shut up and sit down... his time is over.... he proved unreliable and untrustworthy.
I am not about to vote for this RINO ever.


17 posted on 05/17/2011 10:59:28 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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Mark destroyed him last night. I heard it and Mark was keeping things simple and logical with Newts phoney premise of having a “discussion” on this issue. Newt stumbled around and looked like a total incompetent and phoney. That was the moment I realized that he is done in this election. Everyone hypes him as the smartest and greatest debater in the GOP. That episode showed he is neither and has a bit of a temperament issue.


18 posted on 05/17/2011 11:04:44 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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Any Republican who sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi to fight global warming is simply too stupid to be president.

I really don't know what happend to Newt. He was the next Reagan.

Now he is a footnote.

My guess is that he wanted to make his mark on Conservatism. The problem is that Conservatism does not need any new marks.

19 posted on 05/17/2011 11:08:10 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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Fifty-three percent of voters recently surveyed by The Hill said they would not accept any reduction in Medicare benefits even if doing so 'would help get the national debt and federal deficits under control.'

This is garbage.

The Ryan Medicare reform plan does NOTHING to reduce Medicare benefits for anyone receiving them or about to receive them.

What is does is offer options to people at least TWENTY YEARS out from being eligible for Medicare as to whether they want to enroll in Medicare or use another vehicle to provide for their own health care in old age.

20 posted on 05/17/2011 11:12:53 AM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding their comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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