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EDITORIAL: Iran encircles Israel--Obama continues to ignore the tough Mideast challenges
The Washington Times ^ | May 16, 2011 | Editorial

Posted on 05/16/2011 5:37:28 PM PDT by jazusamo

It was just a matter of time before the disruptions in the Middle East began to have an impact on Israel. Unfortunately, the border violence there over the weekend had more to do with preventing change than promoting it.

Sunday marked the annual Palestinian political ritual of Nakba (“the catastrophe”), which marks Israel’s founding in 1948. This year, thousands of people turned out to demonstrate. In Golan, hundreds of protesters burst through the border where they came under fire from Israeli troops. Soldiers clashed with demonstrators on the Lebanese, Gaza and Palestinian Authority borders as well. It was the largest such disturbance in many years.

The common factor in three of the incidents is Iran. The Islamic regime in Tehran is a major supporter of Syria, Hezbollah in southern Lebanon and the Hamas faction in Gaza. The Iranian mullahs have been working diligently to turn the recent Middle East disturbances to their favor, backing Shiite and other dissident groups in Bahrain, Yemen and Saudi Arabia. Tehran sees the risings as an opportunity to extend its influence throughout the region, targeting Arabs and Israelis alike.

Iran’s client, Syrian strongman Bashar Assad, has the most to gain from fomenting violence against Israel. His regime has been fighting for its life against pro-democracy protesters, killing at least 45 last week alone. The provocation in Golan can be read as a means of diverting popular attention - as well as the international media - away from the struggles of those thirsting for freedom inside Syria and toward the time-honored distraction of the conflict with Israel.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: ezekiel38and39; iran; israel; middleeast; obama; psalm83

1 posted on 05/16/2011 5:37:37 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

We are about to witness the Psalm 83 war that occurs before the war in Ezekiel 38 & 39.


2 posted on 05/16/2011 5:57:39 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: jazusamo

“Obama continues to ignore the tough Mideast challenges”

He’s not ignoring them, he’s causing them. At best, he’s making them worse as fast as he can.

“Ignoring” them? Are these people really that naive?


3 posted on 05/16/2011 6:04:40 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: SVTCobra03

That far along? I’ve been wondering and wondering and now Psalm 83/Ez 38-39 is at the doorstep knocking. It’s wonderful and fearful at the same time to see prophecy from 2700 years ago unravel like a scroll in perfect timing.


4 posted on 05/16/2011 6:18:25 PM PDT by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks jazusamo.
Iran's client, Syrian strongman Bashar Assad, has the most to gain from fomenting violence against Israel. His regime has been fighting for its life against pro-democracy protesters, killing at least 45 last week alone. The provocation in Golan can be read as a means of diverting popular attention - as well as the international media...
Of course -- but the Assad dynasty hadn't put so much as a toe across the border since 1973, concentrating instead on the illegal occupation of Lebanon. Forced out by the so-called Cedar Revolution -- gosh, was that an early version of the Arab Spring? -- Syria watched as the Iranian proxies took de facto control over the Lebanese.


5 posted on 05/16/2011 6:49:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Karliner
There's still some time before Ez. 38-39. According to Psalm 83, the nations immediately surrounding Israel will attack.

According to Eze. 25:13-14 and Obad. 1:18, the IDF will defeat the confederacy of arab nations attacking.

Eze. 25:14 tells us the war will extend into northern Saudi Arabia (Dedan).

According to Jer. 49:20-21 the war will extend as far south as the Red Sea.

Isa 17:1 tells us that Damascus, the city more adversarial to Israel, will be destroyed and cease to exist.

Jer 48: 46-47;49:3,6,11 indicate that Israel will establish POW camps in Southern Lebanon and the Negev

When all of this has happened, Israel will have control over a large amount of land. Her people will live in peace, in cities without walls according to Ezekiel, and will be prosperous. Then the conditions will be ripe for the Eze 38-39 war.

I cannot give you a time line for all of this, but I wouldn't worry about it until the day you hear that Israel has obliterated Damascus. Then it will be time to get excited!

6 posted on 05/16/2011 7:24:44 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus
I've read of these prophecies but like you I do not know the dispensational side, no one does. So i usually toss a few scriptures and hope a few folks that haven't of yet crack open their Bibles and search, and know these are the last days and it may soon be time the days of the Gentiles and the church age is over ushering in "Israel vs the earth people", God vs allah, and slamming a sickle into the earth ...well I'm waxing mystic, thanks for the scripture

May the Lord bless and keep you, pray for you and yours, our falling nation and our allies eretz Y'srael!

7 posted on 05/16/2011 11:04:24 PM PDT by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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To: SVTCobra03

The 12th Imam versus the Psalm 83 war ... could be a doozie.


8 posted on 05/17/2011 7:42:48 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: SVTCobra03
We are about to witness the Psalm 83 war that occurs before the war in Ezekiel 38 & 39.

This might happen first:

Eze 29:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring a sword upon thee, and cut off man and beast out of thee.

Eze 29:9 And the land of Egypt shall be desolate and waste; and they shall know that I am the LORD: because he hath said, The river is mine, and I have made it.

Eze 29:10 Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia.

Eze 29:11 No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.

When will Egypt be laid to waste for 40 years? It has not happened yet, and it seems to say it will happen before Armageddon. Also in Is 17 it talks about Damascus also being a "ruinous heap" since it is the longest living city in the world, we know that hasn't happened yet either.

9 posted on 05/17/2011 8:47:48 AM PDT by thirst4truth (The left elected a mouth that is unattached to an eye, brain or muscle.)
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To: Karliner; Former Fetus
I know this is long, you two may enjoy this teaching I recently read.

Dear fellow believers, With all the talk today of the "rapture" and the "last days" and the "coming" of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ along with the dire predictions for 2012 and other end of days predictions I thought it wise to allow The Scriptures to have a small voice in the matter and maybe promote some hope and comfort.

I for many years like so many other Americans have believed that The Lord Jesus might return in my lifetime but a number of years ago the Scriptural evidence caused me to change my thinking. In Their light and the fact I'm almost 58 even with as gracious as my Heavenly Father is in allowing me to live I now realize I probably will not live until that day of The Blessed Hope but will resurrect with the other believers who have fallen asleep in Christ. The upside is that gives time for a full and blessed life for my children and possibly their children's children. What is this evidence and how come so many have missed it? As usual its not reading God's Word nor allowing it to speak. The following a three major reasons for what I believe.

1. Isa 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

Damascus is famous for being the world's oldest city. Therefore, it is obvious we have an unfulfilled prophecy.

Isa 17:4 And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.

Isa 17:9 In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel: and there shall be desolation.

It is not a long protracted attack but in one night it happens. It is Israel from where destruction comes and that destruction is total so that world is quite upset with them.

Isa 17:14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.

To destroy a large city in one night and with this type of total destruction is only possible with a nuclear bomb. When reading many other prophecies the fire that is referenced and the time it burns (40 years) could only be nuclear. In our lack of Scripture study and action and our apathy of the policies of our leaders we are leaving Israel without any other options. Israel has on a number of occasions sent fighter jets up with nukes on their wings to show Syria she was playing with fire. Currently Syria has numerous Scud missiles tipped with VX gas pointed at Tel Aviv. Do you think Israel will stand to be gassed and do you think that might be reason enough for them to use what they call "The Samson Option"?

Isa 17:12 Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!

Isa 17:13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.

Another Arab assault on Israel to wipe her from memory and steal her land (compare with Ps 83, another unfulfilled prophecy) by the only people in the world that want to "cut her off from being a nation so that no one can remember the name of Israel anymore" will bring about collective destruction. The "Samson Option" has long been talked about as Israel's nuclear response if she were ever overrun again like in 1973's Yom Kippur War. The only deterrence to her enemies that outnumber her is the threat that she would use nuclear force against those nations whose armies are invading her. From the Scripture it appears Syria is not alone in it's attack on Israel, who might be with her let's look a one clearly spelled out.

2. Eze 29:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring a sword upon thee, and cut off man and beast out of thee.

Eze 29:9 And the land of Egypt shall be desolate and waste; and they shall know that I am the LORD: because he hath said, The river is mine, and I have made it.

Eze 29:10 Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia.

Eze 29:11 No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.

Both Ezekiel 29 and 30 mention the "tower of Syene", it's important to know that Syene is the ancient name for the region of Egypt known today as Aswan, if you search Syene in Wikipedia you will find the Wiki page for Aswan. The word translated "tower" here can mean any kind of structure really, but Ancient Egypt never built any major structure's in that area, it's the southern end of Egypt, to far from their main population centers. But today that is where the Aswan Dam is located.

In Ezekiel 29:9 God is very wroth with Egypt for Egypt has said "The river is mine, and I have made it. " How does a nation make a river? How does it so control a river so as to boast that the nation has made it their own? The only way is to dam it up thus changing it's volume, banks, etc. and this is what Egypt has done. Are making dam's bad? Of coarse not but pride is and being so proud as to war against God's people would provoke The Lord to draw a sword and smite them.

One very interesting scientific fact is that the Aswan Dam is so massive scientists when asked to consider it's destruction state no conventional bombs could damage it enough to cause a breach. For it to be completely destroyed, flooding Egypt with it's more than 11 trillion gallons of backed up water from Lake Nasser, it would take a nuclear bomb. All the water flooding Egypt would then be radioactive, and would certainly render Egypt uninhabitable for a long time. Scientists estimate that time to be 40 years.

The references to the "sword" in verse 8 makes clear this disaster is the result of war, not a natural disaster and tells us man and beast can not live in the area. This has never happened in the history of the world but with the current changes in the middle east and their collective desire to destroy Israel will it be far off?

Verse 11 tells us again that men can not pass through it nor can foot of beast for 40 years. Now what could cause animals to not be able to make it through a land that has been inhabited as long as recorded history for that long a period of time. Nuclear scientists say a bomb.

Eze 29:13 Yet thus saith the Lord GOD; At the end of forty years will I gather the Egyptians from the people whither they were scattered:

Eze 29:14 And I will bring again the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them to return into the land of Pathros, into the land of their habitation; and they shall be there a base kingdom.

This has never happened in the history of the world, so Scripture tells us Egypt must be destroyed, the people exiled 40 years and then they return, all before the tribulation.

3. Rev 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

Babylon must be rebuilt, yes it must be a literal city and it must be in Iraq as the final overthrow of Babylon is recorded in Revelation 17 to 19, while intertwined with the story of Jerusalem both below and from above, these two cities, Babylon and Jerusalem dominate the outworking of prophetic truth.

Rev 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

It has to be a place where commerce is conducted and it has to be of major significance so the merchants suffer the loss.

Zechariah, the prophet of Israel's restoration, foretells the revival of Babylon. In Zechariah 5:1-11 we have a woman, and wickedness taken back in an ephah "to build it an house in the Land of Shinar". This prophecy necessitates the revival of Babylon. Babylon has never been destroyed as Scripture says it will be -- 'suddenly' (Jer. 51:8).

It has been suggested that if Baghdad continues to spread it will practically rebuild ancient Babylon by it's very extension.

Gentile dominion and Satanic counterfeit will both be headed up again in Babylon, and there they will be judged. Mesopotamia cannot be kept out of the world's politics any more than Jerusalem could be kept out of the first great war or present problems. The sands of time are running out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/18/world/middleeast/18babylon.html http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2163228/posts

The fall of Babylon synchronizes with the restoration of Israel and Judah. It must therefore be future. Further, the Scriptures already considered declare that this blow shall fall in the Day of the Lord.

I believe that the testimony of Scripture is clear and unambiguous: that Babylon, in the land of the Chaldeans, on the river Euphrates, will be revived to accord with the description of Isaiah 13, Jeremiah 50 and 51 and Revelation 17 and 18: that in the day of the Lord, and accompanied by signs in the heavenly bodies, Babylon will be suddenly destroyed and become like Sodom and Gomorrah. Throughout the thousand-year reign of Christ, Babylon will remain a witness to all the world, a prison-house of every unclean spirit, a place shunned and abhorred by all men. Even in the new heaven and new earth 'carcases, worm and fire' shall be an abhorring unto all flesh (Isa. 66:22-24). In direct contrast with this will be the glory of restored Israel and the city of Jerusalem.

These things have not happened yet and we see at least a span of 40 years ahead so be blessed that there is still time to seek His Face and learn His Secret and share His Word. The coming of the Lord draweth nigh, and whether on the mount of Olives, in the air, or in glory, may we be ready to meet Him.

10 posted on 05/17/2011 9:00:46 AM PDT by thirst4truth (The left elected a mouth that is unattached to an eye, brain or muscle.)
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To: thirst4truth
Eze 29:11,13 No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years [...]Yet thus saith the Lord GOD; At the end of forty years will I gather the Egyptians from the people whither they were scattered

I had missed this completely. Very enlightening. Thanks!

Babylon must be rebuilt

You realize that's exactly what Saddam was doing, before the invasion of Iraq. I read somewhere that, just as some of the old bricks carry the inscription "Nebuchadnezzar King of Persia", a similar percentage of the new bricks said "Saddam Hussein President of Iraq". That work has been put on hold, indefinitely.

11 posted on 05/17/2011 9:21:58 AM PDT by Former Fetus
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