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To: robowombat

Up until the time Christianity (in all of it’s flavors) stopped slaughtering non-believers, this essay could apply to both Islam and Christianity. But what saved Christianity is that the teachings of Christ do not support such slaughter, and so an inescapable hypocrisy dogged slaughtering Christians until the pressure of it finally stopped the bloodshed.

Islam, however, has no such hypocrisy, and thus no internal pressure to stop.

Muslims see this as Islam’s “truth.”

The rest of the world merely sees the blood.


2 posted on 05/16/2011 4:28:17 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Talisker

Christianity and Islam are both also adherents to the subjugation and subordination of women. I don’t see any religion that treats women as equals with men ( and I am a man). It may be more subtle outside Islam, but it’s there.


10 posted on 05/16/2011 4:45:27 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Talisker

HUH?

don’t see that comparison at all...The Jewish reliogion didn’t have all this stuff, and Christianity didnt’.


11 posted on 05/16/2011 4:51:45 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Talisker

Up until the time Christianity (in all of it’s flavors) stopped slaughtering non-believers)

Can you link to that?


14 posted on 05/16/2011 4:52:53 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Talisker

See post 13. Christians and Jews don’t marry their first cousins. Muslims do. That’s the problem... It can’t be fixed for many many generations.


15 posted on 05/16/2011 4:56:29 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Talisker

Further; If you have a farm and you inbreed your livestock, you’ll end up with sh!t livestock. Same goes with people.


16 posted on 05/16/2011 4:59:57 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Talisker

Religious wars involving Christians. were always something of an anomaly. Intolerance was not. Even Jesus was not tolerant of error. And after the Church gained the favor of the Government, Heretics, Jews and pagans began to suffer from legal disabilities. The spread of Christianity among the Barbarians gradually muted the savagery of these tribes, but like their romanization took hundreds of years to have real effect. Where different forms of Christianity came into contact, the differences accentuated the antagonisms. Where Christians came into contact with Islam beginning in the 7th century, its warlike character rubbed off on the Christians and aroused the barbarism in the Europen character. A thousand years of Christianity did not eliminate barbarism from the national cultures. The savage religious wars of the 16th and 17th centuries brought both Catholics and Protestants into ill-repute. Oddly, the rationalists of the 18th century who so condemned Christian violence somehow gave Islam a pass, even though the Turks had sought to conquer Europe for q thousand years ending with the final seige of Vienna. As Islam receded before the counter-attack from Western and Eastern Christians, a revisionist view of Mohammed began to emerge. Probably because Christians had so condemned him and his reveleation, the Philosophes began to look more kindly on this inveterate enemy of Christ. It was religion itself that they condemned, and ignorant of life under the Sultan, they began to say that one myth was no more or less harmfull than another, and the Islam, at least, did not rest on miracld, but onl tzhe visions of a single war chief.


17 posted on 05/16/2011 5:01:27 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Talisker

From the beginning, Christianity sought to convert unbelievers, not to slaughter them. In fact, Christians were martyred for centuries by pagans, then by Muslims. Only after about a millenium, when a certain church had enjoyed a state-endorsed monopoly for centuries, was there any movement to persecute unbelievers, whereas Islam from the very beginning, in its fundamental scriptures, preached violence against non-Muslims. Even the much-misunderstood Crusades were not a movement to “slaughter” Muslims, but to reopen the Holy Land to Christian pilgrims, who had been abused and killed by Muslims.


18 posted on 05/16/2011 5:05:19 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Talisker

Elsewhere on the interwebs:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2700702/posts


20 posted on 05/16/2011 5:12:22 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (I fight gangs for local charities and stuff.)
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To: Talisker

Up until the time Christianity (in all of its flavors) stopped slaughtering non-believers
All of its flavors? Really? Please find us some evidence that any of the apostles engaged in slaughtering those that didn't believe that Jesus was the Messiah. They never did, and rather things went the other way, with all of them slaughtered save John. Maybe you're thinking of when stuff like Sunday worship (from other religions in the region) started being snuck in, as early as the first century? You know, the stuff that Paul called "another gospel" in Galatians 1:6-9? that would be preached and practiced by "grievous wolves" mentioned in Acts 20:29-30?
22 posted on 05/16/2011 5:42:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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