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GUN OWNERS YOU HAVE TO READ THIS-BIG BROTHER IS AT THE VA HOSPITALS..PASS THIS ALONG AT ONCE
Lippman-Enterprises ^ | May 15, 2011 | Lippman Enterprises

Posted on 05/16/2011 1:31:57 PM PDT by La Lydia

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To: La Lydia
Nothing new, La Lydia...
VETERANS DISARMAMENT ACT TO BAR VETS FROM OWNING GUNS By Larry Pratt September 22, 2007

Q&A On The Veterans Disarmament Act -- How the new law will affect you and where we go from here January 8, 2008 GOA
But it was then, with most of the Congress gone, that the House and Senate passed the Veterans Disarmament Act without a recorded vote. It was a huge deja vu, as this was the method that a previous Democratic Congress used -- together with compliant Republicans -- to pass the original Brady Law in 1993.

61 posted on 05/16/2011 3:11:17 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: La Lydia

Never happens and I go the Va in Salem, Virginia for injuries from Viet-Nam. Nice hospital and staff.


62 posted on 05/16/2011 3:19:37 PM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: La Lydia
It's the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007

Or found under Public Law 110-180

63 posted on 05/16/2011 3:21:16 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: La Lydia

Who’s not stressed these days? And what if the person really IS threatened? Just cause you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.


64 posted on 05/16/2011 3:26:24 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: La Lydia; All

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=204941.0

scroll down


65 posted on 05/16/2011 3:28:52 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just wait until they change the question to catch more people in their net.

This is the second shoe to drop – the first is the push to close the non-existent gun show loophole and feral oversight over every transaction involving the second amendment.


66 posted on 05/16/2011 3:29:23 PM PDT by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: La Lydia
The text...Public Law 110-180
67 posted on 05/16/2011 3:29:23 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: La Lydia

I go to the hospital on ft Leonard Wood Army Post

they always ask me

1 have you fallen in last 3 days
2 do you feel safe at home
3 do you feel like hurting yourself or anyone else

Not sure what happens if I answer yes to any of them.

But they do ask.


68 posted on 05/16/2011 3:29:53 PM PDT by mouser (Run the rats out its the only chance we have)
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To: ElkGroveDan
I was stunned a couple years ago (the first time it happened) to learn that standard Q&A from pediatricians during childhood checkups is “Are there any guns in the home?”

"Physician, screw thyself!"

69 posted on 05/16/2011 3:34:32 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ladyvet
These questions and “ Do you have firearms in your house?” have been on our clinics update forms for two years now. I just write across them NOYB.

That's fine if there's several irrelevant questions and you answer them all that way, but if there's only a firearms one, they'd probably interpret that as "Yes".

70 posted on 05/16/2011 3:37:41 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking
No, it's a whole group of them at the end. Includes things like “Are you worried someone is going to hurt you?” and “ Are you depressed?”
71 posted on 05/16/2011 3:48:02 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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1 have you fallen in last 3 days
2 do you feel safe at home
3 do you feel like hurting yourself or anyone else

My answer?

"No, I don't feel ssfe at home, because I keep falling, and it makes me want to kill you, then myself."

72 posted on 05/16/2011 3:48:29 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: La Lydia

Just pursuing through the web:

Boozman delivers on 2nd Amendment promise to veterans

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-fort-smith/congressman-john-boozman-comes-through-for-veterans

Coburn Amendment: Veterans’ Second Amendment Rights
Senator Coburn has proposed a first-degree amendment (#3700 - link) to the Health Care Reconciliation Bill, H.R. 4872, to ensure that no veterans be denied their Second Amendment rights without due process. This amendment is identical to S. 669, the Veterans 2d Amendment Protection Act.

http://republican.senate.gov/healthcare/reconciliation/coburn.3700.php

REPUBLICAN PRESS RELEASE

June 26, 2008

Burr’s “Veterans Second Amendment Protection Act” Approved By Senate Panel

Currently, when the Department of Veterans’ Affairs (VA) appoints a fiduciary to assist a veteran with managing their financial affairs, VA also deems the veteran mentally incompetent and reports him or her to the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). The Veterans Second Amendment Protection Act would require a judicial body to deem a veteran, surviving spouse, or child as a danger to himself or others before being listed in NICS, which would prohibit the veteran from being able to purchase certain firearms. The legislation is supported by the American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, AMVETS, and the Military Order of the Purple Heart.

http://www.vawatchdog.org/08/scva08/scva062608-2.htm

S. 669:

Veterans 2nd Amendment Protection Act

A bill to amend title 38, United States Code, to clarify the conditions under which certain persons may be treated as adjudicated mentally incompetent for certain purposes.

This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven’t passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-669

It would seem like this is an issue but it also appears as though it hasn’t been passed, so it might still be a problem.


73 posted on 05/16/2011 3:51:10 PM PDT by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: La Lydia

I took my father in to the SLC VA hospital. They did ask the first two questions. The third was slightly different, asking if he ever felt like hurting himself. He was under extreme emotional stress which was obvious to the admitting clerk.


74 posted on 05/16/2011 3:54:17 PM PDT by Unruly Human
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To: Howie66

This isn’t isolated to the VA. I was in the ER at John Muir Hospital in Walnut Creek, CA recently and I was asked the very same questions. The ER gambit is a real set up, because generally when you are in the ER, it’s not for a hangnail. The best advice I can give is bite your lip and give them very calm, deliberate negative answers. I don’t think it’s even wise to confront them on these questions, because you have no way of knowing how they will interpret your remarks and report them. Just another group, like cops and firemen, with whom you want to have very limited conversations if any at all.


75 posted on 05/16/2011 3:56:15 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: La Lydia

FYI folks, IIRC a friend of mine got a series of similar questions when she was in the hospital for the delivery of her baby. So it’s not just a VA thing.


76 posted on 05/16/2011 3:57:10 PM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: La Lydia

I think they are afraid someone will go postal on them.


77 posted on 05/16/2011 4:08:09 PM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: vette6387

You know, I have been saying for some time that it’s NOT the “Spirit of ‘76” that we need to reignite. It’s the “Spirit of ‘75”, that led to ‘76.

It’s about time that our government started fearing us, rather than us fearing them.


78 posted on 05/16/2011 4:11:11 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: La Lydia

The next time there I’ll keep this in mind, and ask a few question.


79 posted on 05/16/2011 4:13:53 PM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: La Lydia

Sounds like a HIPPA violation to me.


80 posted on 05/16/2011 4:16:44 PM PDT by Salo
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