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To: jonascord

I don’t see the problem. They had reasonable cause to do a warrantless search even if it was the wrong apartment. Did any of you actually read the document?


13 posted on 05/16/2011 12:01:47 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: Peter from Rutland

This one along with the Indiana Supreme Court ruling tipped the point. The Indiana one only affirms the worst.


18 posted on 05/16/2011 12:04:20 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Peter from Rutland
So, you're OK with junking the restrictions of the 4th Amendment on the police: No warrent is ever required with the expectation that the courts will EVENTUALLY pick up the slack, AFTER THE FACT, ONCE THE BODIES ARE IN THE GROUND?!?!

You've developed an interesting legal presumption. May the chains rest lightly on you...

26 posted on 05/16/2011 12:11:01 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

Peter it’s called the law. We are either a nation of laws or we are not.

Cops don’t get to pick and choose the laws they do not like. Sorry everyone, and specially the police since they are the law enforcers, have to follow it.

If you let them get away with this, then it will not be long before you are target. Sorry but I STRONGLY disagree with you. I don’t care if it was to get a criminal. The cops have to play by the rules too.

These judges should be removed from the bench. They have violated their own Oath.


41 posted on 05/16/2011 12:18:32 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Peter from Rutland

I’m with you. Those objecting are reacting, not thinking, as they have not in fact read the ruling. It is very sensible.


44 posted on 05/16/2011 12:20:32 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: Peter from Rutland
Did any of you actually read the document?

Psh... This is FR. The ones who yell loudest, are the ones most likely not to have read the document. And there are a lot of loud yellers around here.

52 posted on 05/16/2011 12:25:48 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Peter from Rutland

>I don’t see the problem. They had reasonable cause to do a warrantless search even if it was the wrong apartment. Did any of you actually read the document?

In the VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH it describes the situation and says that the destruction of evidence was the “probable cause,” but if that then this is the new situation in jurisprudence: The police can bust-in and claim that it was to prevent destruction of evidence.

This is VERY dangerous in that the police can “retcon” their story to make the “evidence” that they were looking for into what was actually found. Requiring a warrant which “PARTICULARLY DESCRIBES THE PERSON OR THING” that the police are looking for is the *ONLY* thing that prevents this sort of tomfoolery and corruption.


68 posted on 05/16/2011 12:35:28 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

I read it and it did seem in this case they had cause.


78 posted on 05/16/2011 12:42:23 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Peter from Rutland

Probable cause is not enough to enter and search a house. It’s not like searching a car where the individual has a lesser expectation of privacy.


130 posted on 05/16/2011 5:21:10 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Peter from Rutland
They had reasonable cause to do a warrantless search even if it was the wrong apartment.

Perhaps in this limited case.

But you do understand precedent law, right? Judges and prosecutors are pretty much free to cite this case from here to eternity in cases that are not so narrow.

134 posted on 05/16/2011 5:35:19 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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