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Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate
Newsmax ^ | May 15, 2011 | Newsmax Wires

Posted on 05/15/2011 6:07:07 PM PDT by libstripper

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To: Aria

I assume, since they have the ability and desire to buy insurance, that they can’t because of some pre-existing condition? They can make arrangments to pay for care on their own then.


221 posted on 05/16/2011 4:12:10 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: MestaMachine

I hope to God you are right about Palin/West being unbeatable, but I’m afraid it’s just the opposite. The ticket would be excoriated for their lack of experience and the sheeple would be brainwashed into voting for the “experience” of Obama/Biden.


222 posted on 05/16/2011 5:12:16 AM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: conservativebuckeye

You can NOT listen to, watch, or speak with Alan West and believe he lacks the “experience” it takes to govern. And Sarah has beat them at their own game already...more than once.


223 posted on 05/16/2011 5:20:22 AM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: terycarl

Daniels is no Reagan. I hear he may have some ‘splaining to do over his Muslim celebrations in the Governors Mansion.


224 posted on 05/16/2011 5:30:56 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: gleeaikin

“I am not quite clear why it is OK to require insurance to drive a car, but not require insurance for guaranteed care in an emergency room. What is the constitutional difference?”

You can’t be serious.
You CHOOSE to buy and drive a car.,,and it is usually one you can afford that fits your life. You know that if you choose to drive a car, it is a “PRIVILEGE,” not a right. You pay for the PRIVILEGE. It is a choice all the way. And if you cannot afford to pay for the PRIVILEGE, you do without the car. No government entity requires you to buy a car whether you want it or not. THAT would be your equivalent, not automobile insurance.

Requiring someone to buy health insurance they can’t or don’t want to afford is like forcing someone to buy a car they don’t want so that everyone else can buy a car.


225 posted on 05/16/2011 5:46:29 AM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: kabar; All
And I won't even describe Newt's lack of character in his personal life.

IMHO that glaring lack of character in his "personal life" simply illustrates his total lack of character in all of his life, particularly including his political life. In the political world he's done the same thing to his former suppoters and admirers, of whom I am definitely one, that he did to his two former wives.

When he gave his immediate post-announcement inteview to Hannity, I posted a commdent that essentialy said everything he said was great, except for the fact that he was the one saying it; however, given his glaring lack of character, there was no way anyone could tell if he really meant it or was just being a grifter. Turns out he was just being the Newt the Grifter that he's always been.

226 posted on 05/16/2011 6:03:53 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: eyedigress

OK, I’ll bite. Name five issues Newt is in step with Tea Party Conservatives?

And while you’re at it please include a very important one—family values. Tell me why this man could ever be considered a role model for my grandchildren?


227 posted on 05/16/2011 6:54:03 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: bluedressman

You stated” I’m not supporting Newt, but let’s not distort what he said. He isn’t exactly backing obamacare. Not even close.”

I watched & listened with my own ears & he didn’t just disagree with Paul Ryan’s plan..he called it “right wing social engineering”.
He did actually state “I believe all of us — and this is going to be a big debate — I believe all of us have a responsibility to help pay for health care,” I didn’t distort his words, he believes in a MANDATE.
His RINO colors came shining through!!


228 posted on 05/16/2011 7:01:33 AM PDT by UrbanPanhandler (To find something "Wrong" in anything, just find where government has regulated it.)
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To: Monorprise

I love the driving a car insurance mandate response.
I heard it at work from a co-worker that said since we have to have insurance to buy a car..why not for health insurance?
I gave him a quick newsflash “NOT EVERYONE DRIVES!! If you don’t want car insurance, mass transit works, walking, riding a bike. But you cannot escape Health insurance because everyone that lives would be required to get it”
I go on & explain it further to the Obama bot but it still doesn’t sink in.


229 posted on 05/16/2011 7:18:30 AM PDT by UrbanPanhandler (To find something "Wrong" in anything, just find where government has regulated it.)
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To: Wolfie

You and I agree on a lot of things, and this too ultimately. What I’m NOT willing to do is address any circumstances our citizens must face, until we get the issue of foreign nationals addressed.

Our national leaders must be on the crack pipe, to continue going at us from behind on the issues concerning immigration, and I’m damned tired of it.


230 posted on 05/16/2011 9:16:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Tell me you haven't asked yourself what mistake Obama made, that wound up causing Laden's death?)
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To: Wolfie

So easy for you to say - just pay for care on their own - until they are bankrupt. Yes, what an excellent solution. /s


231 posted on 05/16/2011 9:24:13 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Noumenon

Gingrich had a knack for using focus groups of certain demographics, finding what they are “Hot” about, and charting a political course which just promises to arrive at that end destination. That is not entirely bad, but Gingrich is void of his own ideas and goals. He just draws from the focus groups, being disinterested in the dynamics or validity of the ideas, but very enthusiastic about where those ideas will bring HIM!


232 posted on 05/16/2011 10:51:43 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Aria
So easy for you to say - just pay for care on their own - until they are bankrupt. Yes, what an excellent solution. /s

So who should pay? The American taxpayer? Should doctors and hospitals be forced by the government to do charity work? Should insurance companies be forced by the government to insure people with pre-existing conditions at a loss?

233 posted on 05/16/2011 10:55:47 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: UrbanPanhandler

Very few people had health insurance prior to the 1950’s and yet somehow the work did not stop spinning, people not only got by with respect to the medical technology of the time they thrived.

Health Insurance is the idea that a 3rd party can take responsibility for your health insurance costs without having any real control over your health choices that necessarily lead to them costs.

That is to say everything from the risks you take to the way you take care of yourself. In every respect there is almost always something someone can do to avoid incurring a health issue.

It is the very idea of Health insurance which is either at war with the idea of cost control(by removing price selection) or is repressive to individuals.

Repressive for refusing to pay for health services for either unknown or disagreeable(to the individual) reasons.

All the while it was the Government that pushed and prodded us into precisely this situation, and acted as if there was no other way to go. Even Republicans act as if there is no other way to go but greater and greater % of the population that are “insured”, and thus not directly responsible for the cost of their health choices.


234 posted on 05/16/2011 1:59:44 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Wolfie

My opinion is there should be a national high risk pool that one can buy into and that provides major medical coverage. This should be funded by a tax or whatever that is funded by insurance companies. Since it would be national and major medical only - and I’m no actuary - I’m guessing the cost might be decent. It would be better than nothing and give an option to those who for whatever reason don’t qualify for normal health insurance. And it would come at a cost to the insured - not free.


235 posted on 05/16/2011 2:36:08 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: MestaMachine

I love listening to West, but it would be easy to paint him as inexperienced. West isn’t running for that very reason, and I don’t see a scenario where Sarah would pick him if she got the nomination.


236 posted on 05/16/2011 3:32:32 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: kabar

everyone has coverage even if only a few pay for it. its how we pay for it that is of debate. i don’t like or trust newt simply based on his green crap with pelosi, but he has never advocated a single payer system, which is what obamacare guarantees.


237 posted on 05/17/2011 10:04:15 AM PDT by bluedressman
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To: bushwon
am not quite clear why it is OK to require insurance to drive a car, but not require insurance for guaranteed care in an emergency room. What is the constitutional difference?

you are not required to have insurance on your car to cover you, you are only required to have liability insurance to cover those who you may injure....completely different concept.

238 posted on 05/18/2011 3:42:41 PM PDT by terycarl
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