Posted on 05/14/2011 2:37:06 PM PDT by Libloather
Hope to have you among the ranks!
Part of the problem is that it seems that the schools are geared toward pushing our kids into college, even when we all know that college (like my time in the Corps) is not for everyone.
I know.....I’m “old Corps”...err....old school.....did some college, but decided that I loved working with cars! Wouldn’t trade my career path for nothing!
Before anything, thank you for your service.
I’m heartened knowing vets today are not treated as we were in the 70’s and I hope you know there are millions of Americans who agree with me in supporting you.
You have my respect, my friend!
Nothing will ever beat a hard working man or woman.
Nor in our house. My turn to brag!
My daughter was a military brat, was public schooled, home schooled, private schooled and Catholic schooled. But whever she went, she was serious as a heart attack about school. Always got the straight A’s. She’s not a drama queen, is quite sober in her outlook, but it paid off.
During high school she had to wake up at 5 a.m. and commute to a Catholic school far from our home. Why we did that to her, I don’t know ..but instead of complaining, she continued to get straight A’s and became the yearbook editor.
So, she gets into a great university (better than her dad or I ever did) and became the campus newspaper editor also. She also majored in a “hard” degree also and got into the
business school — economics — at our extreme urging.
She now works in NYC for a TOP NOTCH financial firm. I can’t mention its name, because it would surely cause some hissing and spitting fits. I am very proud of her, as I actually lived in a mobile home as a child, and came from a crazy broken practially white trash family.
But she did so well. I do believe there are still opportunities for the top notch kids with good personalities, who keep their noses clean. However, for the “average” kids, there are less opportunities ..and that is what has changed — but these dummies can’t make the connection.
Had I tried to do it now, I doubt I would have gone to college. Makes me want to cry.
She leans right politically, but day by day, is seeing the light as she pays extreme taxes.
Our son, however, is one of those average kids. I’m just praying constantly for him .. . and also hoping he just goes into the military.
Going to the Catholic school she had a lot of very neurotic friends from wealthy families — many of whom still have not even graduated. Lots of them staying on those 5-6 year plans. Lots of them already heavily medicated.
How about under employed 46 year olds?
This is a common theme on FR threads about college degrees. I just wonder whether you and others are cognizant of the reality that not every college student is capable of handling the mathematics (particularly that) required to get those engineering degrees.
“Maybe because your degree in “climate change studies” or “peace studies” or “green technology”...”
My own boomerangs each have engineering degrees. One civil, and one mechanical.
There are job openings however, they can’t get past the door. Too many very experienced engineers and all the openings are stressing five to seven years experience.
They should have saved their money and bought lawn equipment because that POS rather THOSE PsOS in our Congress and White House have created a situation were no one wants to hire.
My daughter graduated from Washington State Univ in Dec. 2009. She sent out over 400 resumes, not just in WA state but the surrounding states as well. She got zero response. She decided to take a class to get a certificate to teach overseas and is now in Japan teaching English. But, even that took a while because a lot of kids are trying the same thing and the numbers applying for these jobs are a lot larger than normal.
This isn't always a case of laziness or not taking a job that you think is beneath you. It is absolutely brutal out there right now for kids coming out of college. People with more experience who may have lost their job are taking the entry level positions that would have gone to the college grad. My daughter hit the "glass ceiling" of the Obama economy and the kids coming out after her are finding the same thing.
I hate to see this, but I am hoping that they are realizing that "Hope & Change" is not enough of a resume to put someone in the office of President of the United States.
it’s a lack of jobs hello
Red Arm Bands Fur Shur eh!
God, me either. I was also raised by people who had no business raising children. I left home at 18 and worked my way through school. Had it been necessary to return home after college, I don’t know ...I think I would have run away and joined the military, too! No way in HELL I would have gone back home.
our middle son has to do the extra half semester as well. He is a Computer Science major; math minor. He just missed out on am internship (3 interviews) that would have kept him on campus this summer. Instead he will be home; unloading trucks for Target at night; building maintaining webpages by day. One of the interviewers asked why his work history was continually (even @holiday breaks) with the same store since HS. The guy said, to him, too many kids look passed ‘labor’ jobs and spend a couple months here; a couple there.
I have a good friend like this. I feel very badly for her as she has a teaching degree from an online university. There are absolutely NO teaching jobs to be had, and she’s also getting into her 50’s.
I went back to school to be a nurse. Granted, it’s not the most glamorous job in the world, but I can get a job. I mention it to a lot of people and they always say, “Oh, I could NEVER do that ...too afraid of blood, etc etc ...” You have to do what is marketable, folks.
Shut up.
“Tough love” my ass. Pure meanness is all that is.
Throw them out on the street. Don’ worry about death or incarceration.
Look genius, don’t have kids if you can’t go the distance.
Engineers rule! (I’m married to one)
My husband didn’t have a bit of engineering experience out of the Navy, but took a job that got him on that track. He went to school full-time while working and raising a family, maintaining at least a 3.8 GPA. Despite a bump or two, he has never been unemployed. As a matter of fact, he quit a job at the end of October and took another manufacturing engineer position in Ohio. He’ll be here another week from now so we can move the kids and myself to join him.
Sounds like your son was raised right!
So, you coddle your kids.
I think less of you know.
Hear hear! Well said, thanks.
I remember when my oldest daughter was at the stage of looking for a college to go to. We went to an open house for Northwestern University. (I knew it was ungodly expensive, but, didn't know that they give out about zero grants/scholarships.) During the presentation they had a short film with graduates from Northwestern. They talked a lot about "finding yourself" and touchy feeley junk like that. At the end of the film they had a little bio about each of the students and what they were doing. One was a park ranger, one was a camp counselor --- at the time you would be paying 80-100,000 for a bachelor's degree from that place.
So, my daughter was enamored of it and said to me, "I coud find myself". I told her if she had no idea what she wanted to do, she could "find herself" while attending a state college.
Kids fall for that kind of propaganda from the college agents; but, the parents really shouldn't. (BTW, she now works at Northwestern University.)
I think Howie66 would agree with me on this: a smart, hard worker will always be successful in the USA, no matter their degree (or lack of degree,even).
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