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Delayed aircraft carrier will lack jets for three years ( UK )
guardian ^ | 13 May 2011 | Richard Norton-Taylor

Posted on 05/14/2011 9:34:22 AM PDT by george76

Navy will not get fleet of US joint strike fighters until 2023, three years after carrier due to enter service.

The Ministry of Defence has still not decided how many planes should be assigned to the navy's long-delayed and increasingly expensive aircraft carrier programme, but whatever the number they will not be available for more than a decade, it has emerged.

Confusion over the carrier project was compounded on Friday when the MoD said in its "business plan" that the navy will not get its fleet of US joint strike fighters (JSFs) until 2023, three years after HMS Prince of Wales, the carrier to be equipped with the aircraft, is due to enter service.

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The MoD originally planned to buy more than 130 of the fighters, a figure which will be drastically reduced.

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In evidence to the Commons defence committee he said he wished he could revisit the government's last-minute decision in the defence review to scrap the Ark Royal and its Harrier jumpjets. He said that if the navy still had a carrier it would be deployed on the operations in Libya. "If we had a carrier it would be there."

Stanhope said the decision to scrap the Ark Royal before the Prince of Wales was ready in 2020 could limit Britain's ability to provide air support for British forces. He said that could leave the UK without a carrier for around three out of every eight years due to the need for periodic refits.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: avaition; f35; hmsprinceofwales; jsf; navair; navalair; navy

1 posted on 05/14/2011 9:34:25 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
Why do the British drink their beer warm ?

.....because their refrigerators are made in britain

2 posted on 05/14/2011 9:36:32 AM PDT by KTM rider ( patriot turned rebel)
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To: KTM rider
.....because their refrigerators are made in britain by Lucas Electric.
3 posted on 05/14/2011 10:12:41 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: george76

delayed aircraft carrier,,,will lack jets for the first three years.

Wellll,, that about says it all. So what if the carrier had have been ON TIME? And we want to let the bozo British be in command of American assets in Libya? Insanity,,,


4 posted on 05/14/2011 10:17:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: KTM rider; All

The F-35 JSF fiasco is on US.


5 posted on 05/14/2011 10:19:06 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits, Immigration.)
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To: DesertRhino
Wellll,, that about says it all. So what if the carrier had have been ON TIME?

Lockheed and America would look even more incompetent than they already do?

6 posted on 05/14/2011 10:20:55 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits, Immigration.)
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To: george76

Am I understanding correctly that they were intending to buy 130 of these fighters, only to scale them back... in addition to getting rid of their current Harrier force? What air capabilities does this leave them with?

What good are allies if they can’t be with you in a fight? I’m more than a little concerned.


7 posted on 05/14/2011 10:30:30 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: george76

So far as I know, the Ark Royal isn’t scrapped yet and probably hasn’t been seriously de-mil’d. There’s time enough to bring her back.

Same thing with the Harrier GR.9s. The RN/RAF could recall the pilots and send them off to the Italians, Spanish or Marines and have them start getting re-qualified using AV-8Bs (which are similar enough to the GR.9s for that purpose).

If the Brits don’t want to go that route, they could follow in the Aussie’s footsteps and buy some F/A-18E/F Super Hornets to operate off their carriers until the F-35s arrive. The Aussies are being particularly smart with their Super Hornet purchase: the “F”s they’re buying are prewired for upgrade to “G” model (the Electronic Warfare “Growler” variant that’s replacing the EA-6B Prowlers in USN service). The Brits could do the same, and enough “F”s to fill out a single carrier airwing would be enough to not only fill out the “G” role in TWO airwings, but also have some left over for land-based deployments.


8 posted on 05/14/2011 10:38:55 AM PDT by tanknetter
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Maybe they should get their Fairey Swordfish out of mothballs & museums....


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