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To: Carry_Okie

I don’t have as much a problem taking care of the elderly, as I do paying out welfare to the able bodied. I’m noticing, too that the article didn’t say anything about welfare, just SS and medicare. When I was young, the children usually took care of their aging parents, now, they can’t because everyone in the house has to work to make ends meet and pay inflated taxes to support an inner city subculture.


50 posted on 05/13/2011 4:31:54 PM PDT by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Mamas don't let your cowboys grow up to be babies..)
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To: Quickgun
I don’t have as much a problem taking care of the elderly, as I do paying out welfare to the able bodied.

Do you think the aged could be helping children learn to read? I do.

You are dead wrong in terms of cash flow; welfare as a percentage of your total tax burden pales compared to Social Security and MediCare. The reason is actuarial. We simply must raise the retirement age.

70 posted on 05/13/2011 7:47:30 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Quickgun

Right on Quickgun, found this article on a post thought you would like it.

It’s broke because L B J and the democrats in the 1964 put the SS funds into the general fund and paid for his Great Society and War on Poverty programs, he was socially engineering our country into a welfare state while funding a military adventure overseas. When asked by a reporter if it was fiscally prudent to fund a war effort and his social programs at the same time he replied, “Heck yeah man, we’re rich”.
the Great Society: How it was financed.
To find the money for his “guns and butter” programs, Johnson consolidated the federal government’s operating budget and the Social Security budget.

As he himself put it, “Mah frens, we’ve got one pot of money oveh heah...and we’re spendin’ more than we’re takin’ in. Thass what we call it a daffacit.

“But oveh heah, we’ve got anothuh pot of money...and there’s more goin’ in than is goin’ out. Thass what we call a surplus.

“And if we just put the two of ‘em togethah, thar’d be as much comin’ in as was goin’ out. Thass what we call a balanced budget.”

Thus was the vault opened up to Congressional raids and Social Security doomed the fund money .

What was the message of the social programs that came out of LBJ’s Great Society? One of the most devestating to the family was that if an unwed woman became pregnant, moved out of the home of her parents, did not name or know who the father was, then Big Daddy in Washington would provide for all her essential needs. Ergo she no longer needed a husband or the support of her family. In fact, the more children she had out of wedlock, the more money she would receive from the government. This program was the death knell for many families, especially in the black community. Unfortunately many black men saw this as the best of all possible worlds. They could father as many children as they wanted, from multiple women, without ever having to accept the responsibility of fatherhood. Many women rejected marriage in favor of a boyfriend who could slip in the back door and not jeopardize her government check. In this dysfunctional culture why would education be important? Why seek an education only to have to compete for a good job in the market place when they could just hang around the neighborhood and have all of life’s amenities? In fact studying and getting good grades, for many blacks, became a social stigma. They were called “Uncle Toms” and accused of trying to act “white”. Many blacks who had the potential to succeed gave in to this pressure and opted for failure. After all they had the perfect excuse. Did not the NAACP and race hustlers like Jesse Jackson tell them that it was not their fault? That they were just innocent “victims” of white racism?

This is the legacy of LBJ’s Great Society..compassion as defined by Liberalism and the following years have seen more programs added to the welfare system.
Now we have millions of illegal immigrants’ on welfare, not to mention the housing bust of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd’s
The liberals have killed the goose that laid the golden eggs they beat her to death with the sledgehammer of welfare all for the constituents.


94 posted on 05/14/2011 12:14:40 PM PDT by Country Patriot
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To: Quickgun

Well for one thing, youll find many, many old-timers here who say they had no obligation to help their kids with college, marriage, or whatever financial tight spots they encountered. When SS finally crashes (and every other crackpot entitlement), you’ll see these same “teach the kids self-reliance!” folks come out of the woodwork and beg their kids for help. And many of their kids will refuse for one reason or another.

What comes around goes around. You dance with the Devil (Reid), you’ll get burned in the end.


103 posted on 05/14/2011 3:36:44 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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