Speaking of torture, if you haven't seen the movie "Unthinkable" with Samuel L. Jackson (probably his best performance since Snakes on a plane Pulp Fiction), check it out.
Panetta is pulling a Clinton = “It depends on what your definition of ‘is’ is.”
No one is saying enhanced interrogation got the “name” of the couriers. What they got was the fact that OBL used couriers. It was reported that Kalid Sheik Muhammed only gave up that OSL used couriers. He didn’t know their names. Later the CIA found out the nickname of the courier. Then later still they found out the full name, and that led to the safe house.
So Panetta is parsing words so the libs don’t have to admit that waterboarding led to the couriers.