The Persecution of John Demjanjuk

Townhall.com ^ | May 13, 2011 | Pat Buchanan

[traderrob6]

“You sound like a Democrat”

Them’s fightin words Sparky!

[rdb3]

Pat Buchanan talking about John Demjanjuk again?

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings. Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.

Do it!

[Diago]

“Better there than Israel, they would have hung his a$$.”

I hope you are kidding, or you are just really, really stupid (Israel already convicted him of being someone else - and then was proven wrong):

1983: Israel requests his extradition to stand trial on war-crimes charges.

1986: Demjanjuk is extradited to Israel.

1987: Trial begins. It lasts into the next year.

1988: A three-judge panel rules his alibi that he was a prisoner of war throughout most of World War II is not credible enough to rebut survivors’ testimony. He is sentenced to death, but appeals.

1991: Demjanjuk’s appeal is still going when the Soviet Union collapses. Changes there allow his lawyers to produce testimony from 37 Treblinka guards and prisoners who identify a man named Ivan Marczenko as “Ivan the Terrible.”

1999: The U.S. government accuses Demjanjuk of being a guard at three concentration camps.

1992: Israeli Supreme Court hears final arguments on the appeal. A federal appeals court in Cincinnati reopens Demjanjuk’s extradition case.

1993: Israeli Supreme Court overturns the conviction.

[Jim from C-Town]

I’m sorry you are right. That too harsh.

[Slings and Arrows]

Cut Buchanan some slack - he lost an uncle in the concentration camps.

Poor guy fell off of his guard tower...

[waxer1]

Oh Please....This was a POW who was FORCED INTO SERVICE BY THE NAZI’S!! As far as I know, he did not kill anyone.

[onedoug]

He donned the nazi uniform, which you can claim, evidently, that you would have worn too.

NEVER AGAIN!

[onedoug]

YOU OWE ME AN APPOLOGY! I HAD A OPINON AND I STATED IT AS HONESTLY AS I COULD. I WONT EVEN DIGNIFY YOUR STATEMENT WITH A RESPONSE.

THE MAN EITHER HAD TO GO BACK AND BE SHOT OR LIVE ANOTHER DAY UNDER TERRIBLE CIRCUMSTANCES.

How easy it had been for Demjanjuk. Your own wording seems to justify it. Would it have been as easy for you?

I´ve given my answer.

[RedMonqey]

Oh, anyone paying attention to this Hitler loving revisionist history spewing LOON.

How do you feel about the Israeli Supreme Court that rejected his conviction as "Ivan the Terrible" Buchananon and the Isl. courts think he was innocent. Are they also "looney Hitler lovers" as well?

[allmendream]

They did so based upon evidence.

Buchanan engages in revisionist history because he never met an anti-Semite he didn't admire.

[RedMonqey]

OK, the author of the Article is a consistent defender of Nazi-ism and is therefore highly suspect as far as any information he presents.

Any search of the internet will provide the facts Buchannan states.

Quite simply Demjanjuk was a scapegoat for all the crimes committed by villians long ago dead and is being used by fanatics and political hacks to "make their bones" who has run out of legitimate criminals to convict. They need to fabricate a defendant to use as an "history lesson".

But this IS a step in the right direction: “breaking legal ground that could pave the way for the prosecution of many low-level cogs in Hitler's machinery of destruction.”

I doubt there are many more 90 year old men to quech your thirst for blood. But hey you can always go after their children like a good fanatic.

[allmendream]

Because I think Nazis should be prosecuted I am a fanatic?

Seems that you are quite fanatical in your defense of this Nazi.

The “facts” that Buchanan states that this guy is an “American”?

How about that?

The guy was stripped of his naturalized American citizenship, one he no doubt acquired under false pretenses and lies.

He had a gun. He worked with the Nazis.

Buchanan seems to LOVE him some Nazis. Nobody with any knowledge of the guy should be surprised to find him defending this Nazi with lies.

There is a reason Buchanan is the “go to” so called conservative of many a left wing show - and it is NOT to serve the interests of conservatism.

Quite simply the Nazis gave Demjanjuk a gun and told him to stand guard while they committed genocide.

Now maybe you think a man with a gun doesn't have a choice.

I don't value my own life so much, and the lives of others so little, that I would countenance such - ESPECIALLY once I was armed.

Some people did countenance and contribute to such things. They should pay for their crimes.

To most moral people this isn't a difficult concept.

Some people are less than men and less than moral.

[RedMonqey]

Perhaps if ultimately given the chance, Demjanjuk would have fought in one of the various Ukrainian Nationalist Partisan groups that hated Soviets and Nazis with equal fervor.

Demjanjuk claimed that, in early 1945, he joined the Russian Liberation Army, an anti Soviet force that was funded by the Germans.

Which is probaly why the Communists forged documents to discredit him and many other persons.

[RedMonqey]

They did so based upon evidence.

Evidence of....what? Being forced to wear a uniform? The German court convicted him of murdering over twenty thousand victims... without ANY evidence he harmed anyone personally. If forced servitude is a crime then Germany should rebuild the Berlin wall and enclose the entire country(sarc.)because there were millions that were forced to wear a uniform and do terrible acts.

It seems the German justice system has learned NOTHING from Nazi period history. It was a political trial and a political verdict, not a judicial one.

[allmendream]

Forced to wear a uniform?

Forced to hold a gun?

Forced to stand guard to genocide?

I suppose a lookout for a bank robbery where people were killed didn't actually kill anyone either.

I remember reading a story about a murder. One guy pleaded for mercy saying “I didn't kill anyone I only watched.” Justice was to hang him last - and let him WATCH the others being hanged- after all - he only watched it happen.