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I have also been doing alot of typing today starlifter and you have to go after the grammar. Nice. The high school comment, come on, really? What’s next, the obligatory donut joke?

Don’t presume that I ever said that probable cause is sufficient for a conviction. It is sufficient for arrest or warrant. That’s all.

Let me be clear as well: There is nothing lost with trust but verify and your characterization of those men and women as thugs is also unreasonable. If we knew each other personally, I would make it my life’s mission to introduce you to some real thugs, their environs, their history and in living color. You would have to promise not to eat anything greasy before hand.

Pardons, but I will wager that I have spent more time in the courtroom, (which I excel at) than you, so I need no lesson in what is required for conviction. My investigations and reports have made many take a plea before jury trial proceedings. I just wish I had some answer for why judges refuse to sentence and keep offenders but that’s another issue...

Where does it say he died outside? And they watched him for a half hour? Did some jive turkey lawyer say that to a liberal media source or did the people who were there say that? Wake up. Lawyers and the media are paid to lie, every night. If you want to ingest that garbage that’s on you. All this time, I have been telling you and others that I have been in similiar situations and I am telling you that you should try and trust that those officers did not willfully go in there with murderous intent and then willfully not make an attempt to save the decedent’s life. I am telling you from my professional experience, that if that man could be saved, they would have tried. You cannot ask 12 to 16 men and women on the team and untold members of supporting officers to cover up a negligent homicide. Do you really think of officers as that soulless, that indifferent? You want to believe that, it’s easy and it would certainly justify any misgivings you have about LE. “See, I told you they are all murderers?” Real easy.

Damn right I defend the thin blue line, when it is appropriate. No citizen ever helped me subdue someone that I was fighting with, only another fellow officer, so why shouldn’t support the ones I shared the danger with?

Why are you sad for our minds, my mind? Because I will stand up to you when you make accusations and assumptions without the facts, without prior knowledge or experience?No, I guess I do alarm you a bit. You expected me to be the knuckle dragger with the ticket book and a donut. Happy to disappoint you.

I don’t have any desire to crow to my colleagues about sparring here on FR. Most would say, what’s the point? Ain’t nothin’ gonna change, ML. People break laws, police do their jobs, sometimes it’s ugly, but it the old world gonna keep on a’turnin’.

I don’t drink when I’m out. I carry concealed everywhere and drink clouds the judgement. I cannot justify that if I am needed to resolve something. Hope that is counter to your stereotype as well.