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It’s called PROBABLE CAUSE. Specifically required by the Fourth Amendment for warrant issue. Not a hunch, not wild ass guess, not even reasonable suspicion. PROBABLE CAUSE. They had proof. What is driving most people nuts here is the police are not saying what it is. It’s an ongoing investigation and they have to protect some information.

A investigation was done, he was named as a suspect, his house was indicated as a place or thing to be searched for the evidence of the crime. This was sworn to by officers before a judge and the warrant was issued and carried out. Happens every day, and 99 percent of the time no one gets hurt.

Ninjas were paid assassins. They killed everyone in a household, including children. Those officers only defended themselves when faced with an immediate and credible threat.

So now were on the cowardice issue. Cowardice is when the officers say, “Oh my God, he could be armed. We better not do our jobs.”

In civilian life, only police officers and firefighters can be fired for cowardice. Every new guy or gal I train, I tell them that if they fail to wade into danger with me, I will personally move heaven and earth to see that they are fired for dereliction of duty-cowardice. No one has failed me yet.

And onto the 71 rounds issue. People who have never been in a real life shooting or at least investigated one, should not comment much on the dynamics of close quarters combat. It ain’t TV and it ain’t the range.

Is it probable cause or is it proof? You use the two synonymously. Any minimally competent LEO (and in today's world that is an awfully low threshhold) knows the difference.

The dead guy was defending himself against an immediate and, it turns out, deadly threat. Oops, since he wasn't a cop his life seems to count for little. The cops KNEW he was guilty. Not certain of what, but that seems to be a minor detail. No need to waste the public funds on a trial and even incarceration - the cops had probable cause!!! By God, that's better than proof!!!!

Cowardice is clearly what happened hear.

71 rounds to take out a guy is laughablby pathetic. And not a single shot fired at cops. Not one. Yes, everyone should comment on it. The police, in theory, work for the public. Except, apparently, in your world.

Finally, the heroic, though clealry incompetant shooters, forced on site medical attention away and let the guy bleed out. That, my dear, is cowardice. And hoimicide. Whether it is criminal is to be determined.

Are stupid or what? These idiots went in blazing without shots being fired from within the premises, without a known hostage situation, with incompetency and blatant disregard of common sense and normal rules of engagement even for police. Seeing a gun in someones hand does not justify 3 or more idiots emptying their clips on full auto. The fact that the suspect was still breathing means that of the 70 or more rounds maybe two or three hit him in anyplace vital. Half the rounds probably went through the roof and they are lucky there was no fratricide. He took an hour to bleed out? Criminal negligence even for a guilty suspect. The fact that it is not clear how the SWAT team identified themselves gives this man every right to be defensible in his own home with constitutional rights in place regardless of the warrant. The wait of evidence suggests that if the suspect and wife knew there was LEO at the door and around the house he would not have pointed the weapon at the officers. These idiots will be fired and Pima County is going to lose a lot of money, the Community will have little faith and trust in their local LEO's, a good man and father was murdered in his own home, the constitution was spit upon, and there is no defense for what occurred.

SEMPER FI!