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To: BladeBryan
Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact...
Big whoop-de-squat. Is that supposed to mean that they aren't biased?
What is it with you and leftists? Are they your Gods?
...put this question to two law professors...
Well color me dense 'cause I sure as hell don't see it.
What is the exact quote?

...one of them a “senior legal fellow with the conservative Heritage Foundation”.
From the article...Hans von Spakovsky, a senior legal fellow with the conservative Heritage Foundation, said Hatfield’s bill contains a dual-citizenship ban that does not exist in the Constitution.
Hans doesn't seem to be addressing "the question" at all.

It’s because in your fantasy world you get to make up stuff like that.
Oh, that's so cute! Did you come up with that or did you borrow it from "local attorney and anti-birther blogger Loren Collins"?
This is pure birther fantasy...

No, the reality is that in our time no one argued that the native-born child of a foreigner was ineligible until Leo Donofrio wanted to argue that Obama cannot be president.
Define "in our time". And how could anything have been "argued" when none of the cases have been allowed to go forward? Filing briefs isn't arguing a case, is it?

On 5 Oct 2004, Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), said before the Senate Judiciary Committee: “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” There’s no record of anyone disagreeing Senator Orrin Hatch until late in 2008.
So friggin' what! Representative Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) believes we planted a flag on MARS! Is she right just because she's a politician?
Snicker. The whole paragraph from Hatch, in his own words..."Maximizing Voter Choice: Opening the Presidency to Naturalized Americans" October 5, 2004
What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born in the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen. (here's what you didn't put up...But a child who is adopted from a foreign country to American parents in the United States is not eligible for the presidency. That does not seem fair or right to me.
Has Hatch opined lately on the issue or has he kept his yap shut since he couldn't pave the way for Aaaahnold to run for POTUS?

WOW! You're a sneaky one, aren't you.
If you look at this page...“Maximizing Voter Choice: Opening the Presidency to Naturalized Americans” you'll see in the right hand column those who gave testimony and which members of the Senate Judiciary Committee submitted statements. Hatch didn't "say" anything.

117 posted on 05/16/2011 3:48:44 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
No, the reality is that in our time no one argued that the native-born child of a foreigner was ineligible until Leo Donofrio wanted to argue that Obama cannot be president.
Define "in our time".
Our time is not mysterious; it's the time we've been alive. U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark settled the question in 1898. In 1916 Breckinridge Long argued that Charles Evans Hughes was ineligible for the presidency, holding that Hughes' citizenship must be considered as under the laws existing when Hughes was born, which was prior to the 14'th Amendment. No one born before the 14'th Amendment is still around.
And how could anything have been "argued" when none of the cases have been allowed to go forward?
Legal scholars argue in the literature of the field. In our time, the doubts about presidential eligibility have concerned those born on foreign soil who received citizenship upon birth. The eligibility of the native born was clear and settled. See: Jill A. Pryor, “The Natural-Born Citizen Clause”, 97 Yale L.J. 881, 896, n.85 (1988); and Charles Gordon, “Who Can be President of the United States: The Unresolved Enigma”, 28 Md. L. Rev. 1, 7-22 (1968).
On 5 Oct 2004, Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), said before the Senate Judiciary Committee: “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” There’s no record of anyone disagreeing Senator Orrin Hatch until late in 2008.
So friggin' what!
First, if someone disagreed, why did they wait until Barack Obama ran for president to say so? Second, you are totally to characterize the eligibility of the native-born as a liberal position.
Representative Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) believes we planted a flag on MARS! Is she right just because she's a politician?
If that's what she had said, she'd be correct. The Viking 1 lander carried a U.S. flag to the surface of Mars in 1976. The story is that she though Neil Armstrong put the flag there in 1969, and her error seems to have been caught immediately.

Who said Senator Hatch was wrong, before they needed reasons why Obama cannot be president? Who said the definition of "natural-born citizen" in Black's Law Dictionary was wrong? Who rebutted the claims in the peer-reviewed literature of the field that the eligibility of the native-born was clear and settled?

118 posted on 05/16/2011 6:47:35 PM PDT by BladeBryan
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