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Florida Bill Outlaws Asking Patients About Guns (Bill Passed and will be signed by gov)
Medpage Today ^ | May 9, 2011 | Emily P. Walker

Posted on 05/09/2011 11:07:18 PM PDT by UniqueViews

The Florida state legislature has passed a bill that would make it illegal for pediatricians and other physicians to ask patients or their parents whether they have guns in their home.

Pediatricians often ask the question at initial well-child visits as a platform to discuss how to safely store guns in the home in order to prevent accidental shootings.

But under the law -- expected to be signed soon by Florida's governor -- doctors would face a $500 fine for inquiring about gun ownership and recording it in a patient's medical record. That fine would increase if a physician asked about guns at more than one visit.

The National Rifle Association (NRA), the main backer of the legislation, says questions about firearms don't belong in the doctor's office.

The association also charges that the American Academy of Pediatrics is pushing an anti-gun agenda and that such questions in a medical setting infringe on patients' Second Amendment rights.

"We take our children to pediatricians for medical care, not political judgement or to be harassed by people who have a different agenda other than medical care," she told MedPage Today.

"It's all politics," she said, adding that the AAP advocates banning guns.

(Excerpt) Read more at medpagetoday.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; antigunagenda; banglist; doctors; florida; guns; medicine; nra
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These days the doctors don't have time to listen to the patient's symptoms when they are sick, but have time to ask whether they have guns at home... Pure political agenda.
1 posted on 05/09/2011 11:07:24 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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To: UniqueViews

Good intentions, but I’m not sure the govt should be restricting what a physician can ask the patient. Too bad there’s not a better way to attack the commie trend of physicians attacking gun owners.


2 posted on 05/09/2011 11:14:23 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Gene Eric
Good intentions, but I’m not sure the govt should be restricting what a physician can ask the patient. Too bad there’s not a better way to attack the commie trend of physicians attacking gun owners.

Some doctors have declined to keep patients that have refused to answer their gun questions. Not only that but with medical records forced online it's no great leap to see some anti-gunner doctor or nurse inputting all kinds of crazy stuff about the guns owned by parents John and Mary into the medical records of their little Ricky.

Frankly when asked about guns in my house when going to a new doctor in the past I just lied. It's none of their business anyhow.

3 posted on 05/09/2011 11:21:54 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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To: Gene Eric
Since it was the governmet (federal) Center for Disease Control that started prodding doctors to ask about guns,I'd say the government is already involved.The CDC wanted to treat gun ownership as a sign of mental disorder as a way to disarm Americans. Big government is NOT your friend.

So in this case the people are using the power of the state to fight against federal over-reaching.

4 posted on 05/09/2011 11:22:05 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

>> inputting all kinds of crazy stuff

No doubt. Sad that it takes another law to detox the kool aid drinkers.


5 posted on 05/09/2011 11:30:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: hoosierham

>> Since it was the governmet (federal) Center for Disease Control ...

That changes the perspective, doesn’t it?

>> So in this case the people are using the power of the state to fight against federal over-reaching.

Hopefully we’ll see more of this State level activism!


6 posted on 05/09/2011 11:33:54 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: UniqueViews

At least one state has the right idea. Too bad 56 more don’t follow suit.


7 posted on 05/09/2011 11:36:47 PM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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To: VeniVidiVici; Gene Eric

If a doctor can ask questions about something not related to why you made the visit, next he can ask a child about anything that goes on in a home....making little spy’s out of our own children...If a doctor asked me that I’d sure clue him in on what is going to be discussed and then like the Donald says,......your fired. Followed by hey doc. I’ m spreading the word on what you think is your business to ask a child...


8 posted on 05/09/2011 11:42:23 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: VeniVidiVici
Some doctors have declined to keep patients that have refused to answer their gun questions.

personally, i have never answered that question with a yes or no... i leave it blank... only once was i asked after leaving it blank and my answer was, "i would not want any one to know that i have a gun in my house... nor would i want any one to know that i do NOT have a gun in my house...

9 posted on 05/09/2011 11:45:56 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Gene Eric
“Pediatricians often ask the question at initial well-child visits as a platform to discuss how to safely store guns in the home in order to prevent accidental shootings.”

Ask to see the doctors credentials as a firearms safety instructor. Something like this.

Are you an NRA certified firearms instructor or equivalent?

No:

Are there other disciplines in which you have no qualified expertise in which you are practicing?

Many firearms issues including firearms safety have legal implications. Are you a lawyer?

Then find another doctor.

10 posted on 05/09/2011 11:47:23 PM PDT by precisionshootist (Donald Trump Is a Patriot first and a businessman second.)
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Not even good intentions. You're OK with some docter asking your Hitlerjunge whether Mommy and Daddy say anything against the State, or go to Church, or badmouth the Great Leader, because he has "good intentions." Then he can scamper to the TSA.

And, yes, it's the same thing. I'm beginning to understand why Hitler threw all the Communists into the camps. They never quit, and they are too stupid to change..

11 posted on 05/10/2011 12:04:53 AM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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No parent should leave their young child alone with the doctor.

The issue is about not restricting questions directed to the adults. If the doctor’s going to be an asshole, leave the office and go somewhere else.

Think about the issue of homosexuals that are interested in donating blood, and the emerging inability for banks to inquire about promiscuity.

If the State law is a necessary beat down of commie doctors, then let’s proceed, but we’re also talking about limiting speech which is also problematic. Maybe we need to switch the order of the 1st and 2nd Amendments...


12 posted on 05/10/2011 12:22:42 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: VeniVidiVici

The only reason for a doctor to ask if a gun is in the house is if there’s a bullet in the patient.

Everyone should have a gun education license. No law-abiding citizen should have to declare his gun situation. Bad guys should assume all good guys are armed and able to shoot.


13 posted on 05/10/2011 12:23:20 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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>> he can ask a child about anything that goes on in a home

That shouldn’t be possible. Any doctor that insists otherwise should lose the family’s patronage. If the physician suspects abuse, then he should contact law enforcement; otherwise, he should think twice about inserting himself in the affairs of the family.


14 posted on 05/10/2011 12:27:13 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: UniqueViews

I was asked during a routine physical in CA.


15 posted on 05/10/2011 12:30:36 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: precisionshootist

>> Then find another doctor.

I agree, but the problem is no doubt systemic given the new State law.


16 posted on 05/10/2011 12:32:08 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: precisionshootist

Additionally, ask them if they are insured for providing advice outside the range of their licensed practice. . .


17 posted on 05/10/2011 1:39:45 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: UniqueViews

Do they ask if they have a pool? Pools kill more kids than guns.


18 posted on 05/10/2011 3:16:14 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: Nitehawk0325

As a former Minnesotan.....and now a Floridian................................................................................................................................I’m so proud of my new state!


19 posted on 05/10/2011 3:30:55 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: Nitehawk0325

I don’t believe we have it in WI. Never been asked. If my doctors would ask, I’d have to tell them I lost them all in a kayak accident.


20 posted on 05/10/2011 4:06:46 AM PDT by Ladysmith ("There is no right that allows one person to place a burden on another." - Quinn)
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