The birth certificate debate – it's not over

WND ^ | May 08, 2011 | Joseph Farah

[bigbob]

Words like “forgery” and “fraudulent” are imprecise. I’m hoping they - and Corsi’s upcoming book - separate the discusison about the document (i.e. long-form BC) from the issue of the information that’s purportedly contained in it.

It’s possible to have an “assembled” or electronically created document that is a true representation of fact. For example, if I went to the DMV and requested a new drivers license, it would be “created” on the spot from information filed in databases, but the information on it would be just as accurate.

That’s the real question about the Obama BC. Since it was obviously created recently using a composite of information that even a novice Adobe Illustrator user can detect, we know it’s not a literal scan of a piece of paper in an old record book. Since there is no traceability or “provenance”, we don’t know anything about the truth of what is purported to be the fact of Obama’s birth.

I think the political debate needs to focus on the issues, but I also want to see this issue pursued. Otherwise Obama will have just faked everyone out again...

[mylife]

Dunno, its just doesnt have legs.

[TheBigJ]

Round 2 begins, ha ha ha ha.

Dismiss us at your own peril.

[eyedigress]

The scorpions came down fast upon you. Now you should answer whatever problem they had.

[unkus]

You can holler and scream, stand on your head, hold your breath.

But, politically, it’s over.

The most attention the BC will ever receive happened two weeks ago. Ever.

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Jerome Corsi’s book will be out very soon. This is not over...yet.

[Jeff Winston]

This should be interesting.

[P-nuts and Hare-Doos]

How about some fins that can maybe pull this issue to an honest evaluation

[eyedigress]

Round 2 will begin now.

[eyedigress]

What do you seek.........anything

[MHGinTN]

With an affirmative action bastard hire in the white hut, since he’s a democrat the rule of law is no longer valid. Barry Bassturd is above the law and the Constiotution ... haven’t you noticed how his kneepad minions are working their little butts off trying to make readers believe the Constituion now allows for any anchor baby to be presdient someday? If a halfrican bastard can be promoted to the office, anyone can be. If you don’t believe it, just ping Mr. Rogers, mlo, cynwoody, or a host of other obamanoid drones to get their twisted take on the Constitution. If the Constitution is in the democrat criminal enterprise’s way, well then it must be nullified, voided, altered in meaning, ignored ... but never followed if it stands in the criminal enterprise democrat party’s way to empowerment. And now they have an affirmative action bastard in the white hut, so they can ignore both the rule of law and the Constitution.

[eyedigress]

What do you know about “anything”..............nothing

[eyedigress]

Who the “hell” is “us” anyway asswipe!!!

[freekitty]

I have to agree. Nothing the libs ever do seems to have punishment or responsibility on it.

It’s time to do just that.

[mylife]

I gotta get some ZZZzzz

I will keep a fine eye on what Obama does tomorrow.

I don’t have lot of faith that well screw him on something he had nothing to do with.

I Don’t think foreigners should be allowed to serve for obvious reasons, but there he is.

Now what?

[eyedigress]

Good Nite my FRiend. I’m sure the trolls have lots for me tomorrow.

[Vendome]

That is not the Long Form Birth Certificate(though it may be a COLB).

It is another walk up document. The original COLB was the type you can purchase and receive the same day.

For 3+ years we have heard from everybody, including a protective media, that there is no other document.

That is the only one Hawaii provides.

Well now they have proven that just isn’t so and validated part of Hawaii Statute 318 in the process.

The document Mubarak proffered this week is one you can request and it normally takes 10 days to receive it.

They are “Data Points” and the document “IS NOT” a copy of the original Long Form Birth Certificate.

I want to see the Birth Certificate he found among his mother’s belongings, the one his mother submitted for his entrance into the school system and the one he used to obtain his passport.

He has all three available to him and in his possession.

The fact of the matter is the document Barak released is another Abstract

I CERTIFY THIS IS A TRUE COPY OR

ABSTRACT OF THE "TXE" RECORD ON FILE IN

THE HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

 

 

Now compare that with what a real Birth Certificate looks like and the wording

at the bottom that declares the provenance of the Birth Certificate:

 

THIS CERTIFIES THAT THE ABOVE IS A TRUE AND CORRECT COPY OF THE

ORIGINAL RECORD ON FILE IN THE BUREAU OF HEALTH STATISTICS

TERRITORY OF HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

 

[Puckster]

I agree with “dennisw”.

For the sake of any future wannabe president's that would ignore the Constitution, this should remain an issue.

Does anyone really TRUST that Obama is for real?

“Who said the birth certificate is the main battle? Just keep it percolating away and discovering the truth. Do this while bringing up the main problems with Oboingo.”

I'm not so much a believer in the ineligibility as much as I am a believer that something simply isn't right.

His history in his book seems to be fabrication....why would the BC be any different.

Consider all the liars that have groomed this man....then tell me this should be dropped.

[Cobra64]

Well it is a serious matter, but its in the dead letter office.

Bullshit. It's about our Constitution. Libs and RINOs who don't believe in our Constitution should leave America in live in some God-forsaken third world shit-hole.

[Cobra64]

Politically, the birth certificate debate is over.

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So we may as well burn this:

[Political Junkie Too]

Here's the typo.

Most images of the BC are cropped to be just the upper part of the page with the vital statistics.

The lower part of the page contains the stamp and signature of Alvin Onaka. The typo is in the rubber stamp. The word "the" is written as "txe."

Here is a link to another FR thread and post 488 with the full image. Go to that post to see the full image.

Zoom in to the stamp in the lower right corner of the image.

-PJ