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The birth certificate debate – it's not over
WND ^ | May 08, 2011 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/08/2011 8:37:32 PM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: mylife
I am just sick of fighting a losing battle.

With that attitude, I think you just defined yourself.

81 posted on 05/08/2011 10:21:29 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Vendome
Thank you.

What are people saying about the "txe" typo in the Alvin Onaka stamp on the bottom right?

-PJ

82 posted on 05/08/2011 10:22:26 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Don’t know.

I don’t think everyone has thought this sleight of hand through yet.


83 posted on 05/08/2011 10:45:43 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: mylife

When will Obama stop hawking this crap about him being born Hawaii?


84 posted on 05/08/2011 10:49:36 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton (Texan Pride)
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To: RobinMasters
If Donald Trump had spent about 3% of the time he spent demanding the "Birth Certificate," in explaining to the masses what a "Natural Born Citizen" is, we would not be having this problem, IMHO. Maybe some brave right wing radio host will also try that.

The Mombasa Moonbeam has NEVER claimed to be a "Natural Born Citizen." The strategy was to "prove" that he was a
"Native Born Citizen," and that "Native=Natural."
Part of their strategy was obvious: sidetrack the NBC issue with the BC hue and cry. Congress and the Courts certainly cooperated. Team Obama backed up their strategy with a massive investment of both their and our money.

That is exactly what the dweeb Jindal is attempting to use for his own benefit. He is capitalizing (he thinks) on Obama's investment. Rubio will probably try the same thing. Neither Rubio, Jindal, or Obama is a Natural Born Citizen.

I would say that about 20% of Americans are presently capable of understanding this constitutional concept. The Courts and Congress are using the ignorance of the majority to allow the Constitution to be undermined.

The fact that Rubio and Jindal are trotting out Birth Certificates, and that legislatures are harrumphing about demanding Birth Certificates as "proof" of eligibility means to me that Obama and Soros have orchestrated a successful anti-constitutional coup.

It also means that Obama will be in office until 2012. If we can beat him, perhaps the courts and Congress will re-establish what the Republic has known since its founding. I.E., what a "Natural Born Citizen" is. If we don't beat him, the issue will remain unresolved and the offspring of two illegal aliens will soon run for President.

Job #1. Beat the SOB in 2012.

PS:
To what court do the legion of Photoshoppers and Illustrators plan on bringing their evidence that the BC is a fraud? Note some careful WH parsing. The BC given to the WH by the HIDOH is not a copy of an original. It is a newly created document "ABSTRACTED" from data recorded on other documents on file. There is no way for us to know whether the data is complete. The WH has made available a copy of that newly created abstracted document, NOT a copy of original records or materials. IF the data is incomplete or fraudulent, it will take long after 2012 to ascertain who committed fraud. The WH defense will be that "they issued a copy of what they received!"

85 posted on 05/08/2011 11:02:20 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
The fact that Rubio and Jindal are trotting out Birth Certificates,...
 
I haven't seen Rubio's birth certificate.  Is he a natural born citizen (born in country to two citizen parents)?

86 posted on 05/08/2011 11:23:19 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: mylife

I’m inclined to believe the president was born in Hawaii, but the guy has paid out over $2 million to keep all of his records, BC, draft card, college info, etc, secret. I don’t mind if others try to get the president his money’s worth.


87 posted on 05/09/2011 12:12:35 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Let_It_Be_So
Is Rubio a natural born citizen (born in country to two citizen parents)?

No. The record is clear. The reasons why he won't discuss it are not so clear. Both parents were Cuban refugees and neither was a citizen at the time of his birth.

88 posted on 05/09/2011 12:30:08 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: VanShuyten
I’m inclined to believe the president was born in Hawaii

This is what has driven the "Constitutional Wing" of the ineligibilists quite mad.
The man could have been born at home plate in Yankee Stadium as Mickey Mantle was rounding third, with Yogi Berra as the midwife, with Bing Crosby and Kate Smith singing 'God Bless America,' on the 4th of July ... and he still cannot be a Natural Born Citizen. The father, you see, was a foreigner, here on a student visa and later actually deported.

Born in Hawaii? OK. SFW? Ditto Jindal and Rubio.

All: do spare me Wong Kim Ark, the 14th Amendment musings,etc. etc.. None of our opinions is worth a damn without back-up from Congress and the Courts. Apparently, from now on, discussions of constitutional matters are to be fought out to no particular conclusion on the internet. Congress agrees with the pResident, i.e., Native = Natural, and the Courts refuse to get involved.

89 posted on 05/09/2011 12:47:22 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: RobinMasters

Every democRAT and RINO who has backed this fraud needs to go to prison also. Mr. Crying eyes and all the rest need to wake up and answer for what they have put us through as a nation.


90 posted on 05/09/2011 1:55:57 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: Balding_Eagle
Politically, the birth certificate debate is over.

It ain't over until the fat lady sings and she's just warming up!

91 posted on 05/09/2011 2:19:49 AM PDT by Bellflower (Isa 32:5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said [to be] bountiful.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
No. The record is clear. The reasons why he won't discuss it are not so clear. Both parents were Cuban refugees and neither was a citizen at the time of his birth.

If they let Obama get away with having a non citizen dad they won't be able to say a single word against Repubs who run without both parents being citizens. Maybe they will hoisted in their own petard. I certainly want the Constitution to be followed but something in me would like to have the fun of seeing them with their political feet deeply planted in their own mouths.

92 posted on 05/09/2011 2:26:49 AM PDT by Bellflower (Isa 32:5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said [to be] bountiful.)
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To: unkus
Jerome Corsi’s book will be out very soon. This is not over...yet.

It's not a coincidence that Ubama just happened to get around to releasing his birth certificate only weeks before that was scheduled to happen. Now the state-run media has the cover it needs to ignore or dismiss as kookery anything in that book.

93 posted on 05/09/2011 2:51:57 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: MileHi

Excellent retort.


94 posted on 05/09/2011 3:31:09 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: mylife
I am just sick of fighting a losing battle.

Quitter
Loser
Weak-willed
Spineless
No balls
Coward

These are just a few words that come to mind. Given time I could add more.

But, you have the gall to criticize those who recognize that NO ONE outside of Team Obama has ever seen the so-called "birth certificate," and there are 50 or 60 serious examinations of the document on the 'Net that clearly indicate the document has been digitally/electronically manipulated.

Your words are hollow, and your criticism weak and childish.

Do you get aroused when you see Obama in the telly?
95 posted on 05/09/2011 3:45:53 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: RobinMasters
The following video dissects the latest BC amazingly ... I can't recommend this enough:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLW5yAxBwDg&feature=player_embedded

96 posted on 05/09/2011 5:13:07 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: mylife

“When will Farah stop hawking his crap?”

You sound like an Obamite.


97 posted on 05/09/2011 5:53:23 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: mylife

You’re SO-O-O right!


98 posted on 05/09/2011 5:56:33 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: mylife

When will Farah stop hawking his crap?


When Obama stops hawking his...


99 posted on 05/09/2011 6:36:39 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: unkus; All

Jerome Corsi’s book will be out very soon. This is not over...yet.


Jack Cashill on The Peter Boyles Show right now...

http://www.khow.com/mediaplayer/

If you missed it then wait for the podcast to be posted.

http://www.khow.com/pages/boyles.html

He has read Corsi’s book. He was never focused on the bc issue. But now he has real doubts about the bc itself.

One fact contained in Corsi’s book:

From the date of the purported marriage of SAD & BHO I in maui to the date of birth of the annointed one, there is NO evidence of SAD’s physical presence in Hawaii.


100 posted on 05/09/2011 6:44:19 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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