(quoting comments from Borderraven):
“Natural-born citizen( NBC) requires two NBC parents. The parents have to have US citizenship, meaning they can each, either or both be naturalized, native-born, or NBC.
Barack Hussein Obama II, has proven he was born a native born Hawaii citizen, and a dual-citizen UK/US, thus invalidated any claims he is a NBC, or constitutionally eligible to be a POTUS.
His father was a foreign born student, on a non-immigrant student visa (8USC1101(a)(15)(F)(i)), under British consular jurisdiction, per 1952 British Treaty.
Barack H Obama II, was born in the Hawaii, then per (circa 1961 law) 8USC1401(a)(1), he would have been native born a US citizen, and under consular jurisdiction of the 1952 British Treaty and the under jurisdiction of British Nationality Act of 1948, Part II(5)(1)(a) he was born a British Citizen, thus a dual-citizen UK/US, and not a natural born citizen, and not constitutionally eligible for the 2008 or 2012 Presidential elections.
Citizenship by birth is determined by the circumstances existing at the moment of birth (Usually the 24 hour day in which the birth occurs between 00:00:01 to 11:59:59), jurisdictions, location, laws, treaties, etc.
Territory and allegiance determine jurisdiction.
Dual-citizenship is conferred by territory (jus soli) or by blood (jus sanguinis), owes dual allegiances and may be influenced by one against the other. Not someone you would want commanding the Army, is it?
Natural born citizen, is conferred by territory (jus soli) and by blood (jus sanguinis), has a singular allegiance that cannot be affected by a foreign influence
Presidents 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 & 12, who were “present at the adoption of the constitution” became the first-generation US Citizens “by conversion”.
With George Washington being 55 and Zachary Taylor being the youngest at 3 years old.
The “second-generation” US Citizens who were born of two first generation citizens, became the Natural Born Citizens.
The Natural Born Citizens who became US Presidents are: 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 38, 40, 41, 42 & 43.
Both of their parents either became citizens at the adoption of the constitution, or were born of the new citizens, or were naturalized before the future president was born.
Anomallies
#21 Chester A. Arthur
#44 Barack Hussein Obama””
Quoting comments from Freepers:
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Candidates and opinion-shapers need to stay focused on the real issues and attacking Obama’s policies, not his citizenship”
“The birth certificate debate is the dumbest waste of energy ever in American politics.
As long as conservatives continue to push this nonsense, they won’t be taken seriously as policy leaders.”
“You’ll notice that the overwhelming vast majority of prominent conservatives (including potential presidential candidates) want absolutely nothing to do with “birther” drivel. The one who has, Trump the clown, looks like an utter and complete buffoon now that the theory has been utterly blown to pieces when Hussein released his long form.”
“Obama will not be defeated by conspiracy theories, he will be defeated on the issues - primarily his horrendous mismanagement of the economy.”
“Yup. The whole “birther” issue has been an utter waste of time tied almost entirely to ridiculous conspiracy theories.”
“I agree.. I think there are other issues to talk about..”
NOW......ask yourself this. Is it wise to ignore a serious Constitutional issue so that one does not appear “ridiculous?” Is it brave to be bullied away from studying a legal question which potentially has enormous political impact?
If we attack obama only on these “policies” who will then tell us which “policies” we are allowed to attack on? Will these same people who work to dissuade us from this question of eligibility, further confine our approved “list” of allowable issues on which to debate?
Are we to be cowards with no conviction?
From an obama approved campaign website: FactCheck:
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr.was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by THE BRITISH NATIONALITY ACT of 1948.
THE SAME ACT GOVERNED THE STATUS OF OBAMA SR.’S CHILDREN.”
How in hell can a single solitary person misunderstand or misconstrue the meaning in that paragraph?
But the more important question is, why would anyone want to?
Great post!
Earl the past week, Mark Steyn sitting in for Rush, ridiculed and derided a caller for wanting to push the eligibility issue. His basic point was ‘would you really want to disqualify a man because there is a question over whether his mother was old enough to convey citizenship on him at his birth, a birth which he had no control over?’ Of course Steyn was purposely giving (read affirmative action putz) barry bassturd a pass for all the criminal behavior which may be at the heart of the scam to get him in office. And the kneepad sycophants working FR for axelgreasy of late want us to ignore the criminality also! And we shouild, until the bassturd is out of office, unless a totally conclusive piece of evidence surfaces which proves barry bassturd and his criminal enterprise party have been committing massive fraud. I just hope the feckless pubbies have the good sense to nominate someone who will actually work to restore the Republic when barry bassturd is exposed as not only ineligible to run a second time but is a criminal who needs to be prosecuted asap.