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The Waterboarding Trail to bin Laden
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 6, 2011 | By MICHAEL B. MUKASEY (Former Attorney General)

Posted on 05/06/2011 9:14:34 AM PDT by garjog

"But policies put in place by the very administration that presided over this splendid success promise fewer such successes in the future. Those policies make it unlikely that we'll be able to get information from those whose identities are disclosed by the material seized from bin Laden. The administration also hounds our intelligence gatherers in ways that can only demoralize them.

Consider how the intelligence that led to bin Laden came to hand. It began with a disclosure from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM), who broke like a dam under the pressure of harsh interrogation techniques that included waterboarding. He loosed a torrent of information—including eventually the nickname of a trusted courier of bin Laden."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: binladen; osamabinladenkilled; terrorism; torture; waterboarding
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To: garjog

When excerpting some Murdoch sources like the Wall Street Journal, larger excerpts would be appreciated, especially by those who can only access a dial-up service for an internet service provider.

I have DSL from Verizon, but when I link the Wall Street Journal, it takes so long to download that it’s like being on a dial-up service again.


21 posted on 05/08/2011 12:44:26 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Sacajaweau
"Just read an article on Christian Science Monitor...says they got the info from Mohammed AFTER the waterboarding stopped when they promised him cookies and milk and a rack of lamb

That's the Diane Feinstein line. ...that KSM so vigorously denied that al-Kuwaiti (the courier) had any significance, that the interrogators figured the opposite was true.

Don't know which side it is, but somebody is lying desperately about what happened in the interrogations.

The thing that does not ring true about the Feinstein line is that KSM would have had to be a lousy liar for her scenario to make sense. And everything we have learned about KSM points to his being an accomplished and disciplined liar with ice in his veins.

23 posted on 05/08/2011 7:04:39 PM PDT by cookcounty (Final Score: Osama bin Laden: 72 Sturgeons. American People: 72 Versions.)
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24 posted on 05/08/2011 7:10:47 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: garjog
From the Christian Science Monitor article referenced above:

A group of former US military interrogators ......

Note that these are military not CIA interrogators, and that the CS Monitor only names one, Col. Herrington, who was not present for waterboarding.

Also be aware that there has been some very strong negative attitudes between Army interrogators and CIA interrogators, to be more specific, some (and I emphasize some) Army interrogators have been very quick to trash-talk the CIA. They often felt the CIA was not respecting their work. Justified or not, I do not know, I just know the bitterness was there.

Also be aware that the Monitor hires only people on the political left.

25 posted on 05/08/2011 7:17:28 PM PDT by cookcounty (Final Score: Osama bin Laden: 72 Sturgeons. American People: 72 Versions.)
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To: garjog
The other BS in the Monitor article is that KSM asserrted his right to remain silent and asked for a lawyer.

Under Eric Holder's Criminal investigation Rules, that would have ended interrogations, right there. Eric Holder is a total idiot and a threat to freedom everywhere. He lives in a lawyer's dream world.

26 posted on 05/08/2011 7:22:10 PM PDT by cookcounty (Final Score: Osama bin Laden: 72 Sturgeons. American People: 72 Versions.)
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To: NonValueAdded
"With all due deference to Sen McCain, he is not an impartial observer when it comes to torture for obvious reasons.

I don't want to disparage the Senator, after all he went through, but did he not state in his biography that the NVA succeeded in getting information from him at the Hanoi Hilton?

Please, please correct me if I am in error. I'm sure I would break in 5 minutes.

27 posted on 05/08/2011 7:26:02 PM PDT by cookcounty (Final Score: Osama bin Laden: 72 Sturgeons. American People: 72 Versions.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks neverdem for the link.


28 posted on 05/10/2011 11:51:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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