FOx reporter calls the killing of Bin Laden, "murder"

[Soothesayer9]

I only wish a SEAL could write that well, LOL!

[Ratman83]

Nice summary

[Happy Rain]

Obama assassinated Osama and we get the 72 versions?

Osama was buried with the Clinton era Liberal Democrat skeletons (the ones Sandy Burglar couldn't reach)--the skeletons that led to 9/11.

RIP

[HKMk23]

The word on the RIGHT: FOCK FUX

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

“Ask them what they would do if George Bush unilaterally ordered..."

Absolutely no doubt, they'd be drawing up articles of impeachment right now. Rapturously. "We got him! We got him!" they'd cheer, and it would not refer to OBL.

[Gene Eric]

But if you don’t believe it was illegal, then you cannot say it was murder without speaking in contradictions.

[jiminycricket000]

"FOx reporter calls the killing of Bin Laden, "murder"

"And your point is?"

I can't speak for anyone else, but my guess is he means the reporter is an utter moron who can't differentiate the killing of the mortal enemy of the entire Western world who has masterminded the murder of thousands, from an act of murder, (the unlawful killing of a presumed innocent person). And such an airhead "journalist" is a fraud who should be fired for her inability to grasp this monumental difference.

[Marty62]

You call a MASS Murderer “incovenient”?

[Haiku Guy]

I see your point. Drone strikes and bombing are legitimate because we are at war and killing the enemy is what you do in war. I’m OK with that. But that is not what we’re talking about here.

But if the enemy is trying to surrender, or it would be just as easy to capture him as to kill him, then a soldier must capture him, right? Even in battle, you’re not permitted to kill people just because they need killin’.

[AmericanExceptionalist]

I would have no problen with anyone's describing it as an execution--it was surely that; there is no point in our pretending that this mission was intended merely to capture the man, and place him in a courtroom--but to describe it as "murder" is quite another matter. Especially since the comment was (apparently) made in an emphatic manner, rather than just in passing, as a mere slip of the tongue might be.

[rlmorel]

I have no doubt there ARE many who write better. A great book I read is “Imperial Grunts”, where the author tells the stories of US military personnel deployed to everywhere from Ft. Bragg to Mongolia (yes...Mongolia)

The picture he paints of our special forces is highly complimentary. They come across as well rounded individuals, well educated and highly intelligent.

Of course, the libs hate that, because they think only losers who cannot make it in the “outside world” join the military.

Funny, I watched the opening half hour of the John Wayne movie “The Green Berets”, and while the rest of the movie was hackneyed and somewhat cheesy, that first half hour was great, especially where the two NCO’s giving the press briefing put the press corps in their place. I don’t think that was fantasy, either. I would take the intellectual capacity of nearly anyone in our special forces over ANYONE in the media.

[AuH2ORepublican]

You mean Option #1, right?

[AuH2ORepublican]

“Well, technically, it was murder.”

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Murder is the intentional taking of an innocent human life. Aborted babies are murdered; Osama bin Laden was not murdered.

[Eaker]

I can’t argue with this post at all.

Very clear and concise!

[Little Ray]

Need to fire her yesterday.

[caww]

The question for you is what exactly would you consider a non-threat from this master murderer....He was No. #1 on the Most wanted list. He was the main objective of the military..dead or alive..for years now. What is it that you are not getting?

Reasonable conclusion in a war zone? Under fire? With the full knowledge Pakistanie military and police would soon be in hot prusuit.... It’s called a para-military “mission” for a reason.

[laweeks]

Murder is the intentional taking of an innocent human life. Aborted babies are murdered; Osama bin Laden was not murdered.

Fair enough. Perhaps we could say he was assassinated . . . kinda' like that anyway.

[The Sons of Liberty]

Right - I’m not on top of my game today.

[SaveTheChief]

I never offered my own opinion on the legality of the matter. But if we're going to talk about what is legal or illegal, we need to consider the laws of the people on the land where the operation occurred.

We need to stop being so arrogant as to believe that our laws, opinions, and feelings are the only ones worthy of consideration, somehow giving us the moral superiority to do what we want throughout the world.

From our perspective this might be a matter of justice being served, but to others throughout the world this could be considered an illegal military operation and cold-blooded murder.

I don't understand the reactionaries around here who get so upset about the use of one little word carelessly used by a television reporter. So much energy is wasted on insignificant and irrelevant nonsense. There are far more important issues here that deserve our attention.

[Polybius]

But our government should not be in the business of killing people in cold blood. ... If you have bin Laden unarmed in a room, truss him up, toss him in a helicopter, and bring him to Gitmo. Then try him before a military tribunal and put him up againt a wall. .... Tough cases make bad law. Sure, everybody wanted bin Laden dead. But did we really want to establish the principle that the government can break into a private house and kill whomever it wants?

What our government Obama should NOT be doing is talking about it.

"We will neither confirm nor deny any detail of the raid."

Period.

You are bringing up military tribunals, and "cases" and "bad law". You are even bringing up "private houses". What next? That a house was legally posted with "No Trespassing" signs?

Hello! .... This is a WAR and Osama bin Ladin was an enemy COMMANDER.

In a war, there are no "private houses". In a war, there are "targets" and "buildings" and "positions" at certain geographic coordinates.

In war, there are no "suspects". In war, there are "enemy forces" be they in logistics, be they in command and control or be they on the front lines.

In war, you kill enemy forces, with the least risk to your own forces, as efficiently as possible. Enemy forces are legitimate targets even if they are sitting on a latrine, taking a dump, wondering what that thing up in that tree way over there is.

ALL enemy forces in command and control are legitimate targets for lethal action in the most efficient and effective way possible with the least possible risk to your own forces. The health of the target is the consideration that comes dead last. (No pun intended.)

Was Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, the architect of the Pearl Harbor attack, a legitimate target for killing without trial during World War II?

As a Commander, yes, he was.

Operation Vengeance was carried out to kill Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto on April 18, 1943, during the Solomon Islands campaign in the Pacific Theater of World War II.

Was Adolf Hitler a legitimate target for killing without trial during World War II?

As a Commander, yes, he was.

Operation Foxley was a 1944 plan to assassinate Adolf Hitler, made by the British Special Operations Executive (SOE). Although detailed preparations were made, no attempt was made to carry out the plan. Historians believe the most likely date for an attempt would have been July 13–14 of 1944, during one of Hitler's visits to the Berghof.

Was Winston Churchill a legitimate target for killing without trial during World War II?

As a Commander, yes, he was.

Secret mission to kill Churchill is revealed: Four Nazi assassins with orders to kill Winston Churchill in North Africa in 1943 were trailed by British intelligence officers, newly-released war reports disclosed yesterday. Germany had managed to obtain accurate predictions of the route Churchill was likely to take on a flight home from Egypt via Algiers and Gibraltar.

As I said, in war, the health of the enemy target comes dead last in consideration.

You never know if trying to talk a 6 foot, 5 inch fanatic into surrendering or wrestling with a 6 foot, 5 inch fanatic is going to provide the needed distraction or the needed 2.3 seconds for an armed bodyguard to burst into the room and kill one or several of the SEAL Team.

Not even another enemy bursting into the room or a 6 foot 5 inch man is required for such a thing to happen.

Pakistani scientist Aafia Siddiqui has been sentenced to 86 years in prison for allegedly shooting her American interrogators while in custody in Afghanistan.Siddiqui allegedly grabbed a US warrant officer's rifle while she was detained for questioning in Afghanistan's Ghazni province and fired at FBI agents and military personnel as she was wrestled to the ground.

If that cute little woman can pull that off, you want to give a 6 foot 5 inch man a fighting chance in his own, pitch dark room?

"There he is, to your left! POP. POP. POP."

That's the way it went down.

Otto von Bismarck said that “The less people know about how sausages and laws are made, the better they'll sleep at night”.

That also applies to war.

If you believe that, in war, the concept of a "a private house" exists for the geographic coordinates of the location of an enemy Commander, then you also probably believe that sausages come from the Sausage Fairy.

That is why, for the benefit of sensitive people like you and for future operational security, the Obama Administration should have limited their statement to the following:

"The raid was carried out in the most efficient way possible, with utmost care being taken to minimize all possible risks so that that another Desert One debacle would not occur. The mission was accomplished and Osama bin Ladin died during the operation. Beyond that, we will neither confirm nor deny any operational details".