[ohioWfan]

While I don't have a problem with that in concept, it has been my experience in life that when we want something very bad, we often think it's God's will for that to take place. I'm not trying to give you grief over Bush on this topic, because I don't want to make those types of arguments regarding him. God's will is not always as easy to see as we would like to think it is, and I don't want to speak for Him regarind this man. It's not an argument that I think men should argue definitively on a person that has good and bad traits. That's just my take on it.

Hey, thanks for the response. I appreciate the exchange.

So do I.

My comments about God's provision of a President we needed when we needed him is based solely on the Scriptural absolute that God places all leaders in authority at all times.

He is Sovereign and in control of all things, and nothing happens that is outside of His Sovereign will.

When we were attacked on 9/11 God had provided His own servant whom HE knew would seek guidance and be on his knees in prayer.

God provided President Bush the wisdom he needed and asked for to guide us through some very dark and dangerous days. (That IS, btw, the subject of this thread. Jehovah Jireh).

I don't believe it is Scripturally debatable that God is Sovereign, and in these difficult days with a Marxist in the White House, I rely on that even more than I have before in my long life.

As for the 'border thing'.....there was so much abject hatred and irrational anger on those threads that most Bush supporters avoided them like the plague. The comments were vile, profane, filthy, filled with name-calling and disgusting comments and served absolutely no purpose to promote or discuss conservatism. That's why you didn't 'see' many of us who disagreed with the policy but still respected the President there. There was no place on those threads for sanity. They were emotional explosions from completely irrational Bush haters.

Now, I see that the mindless, dishonest I-hate-Bush boy band is here in force, and the end of rational discussion is at hand.

Perhaps some time when they return to whatever forum they belong on, this discussion can continue, but for now, it's best for me to not even see the bile they post.....

Too bad. It's been a good discussion, and they, as always, have destroyed it.

[woofie]

As for the 'border thing'.....there was so much abject hatred and irrational anger on those threads that most Bush supporters avoided them like the plague. The comments were vile, profane, filthy, filled with name-calling and disgusting comments and served absolutely no purpose to promote or discuss conservatism. That's why you didn't 'see' many of us who disagreed with the policy but still respected the President there. There was no place on those threads for sanity. They were emotional explosions from completely irrational Bush haters.

I said what I could at the time.and was soon shouted down ...I live in a border state and most of those " experts" who were sure Bush was "not protecting the border!" havent been south of New Jersey.

I asked a bio weapons expert friend how someone would attack us ....he said they can get in a boat west of L A and dump their chemical weapons in the water.

Suddenly I realized that Bush was a failure and hadnt built a fence up and down our coastlines like any REAL Conservative President would.