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Swedish Skeptics Confirm "Nuclear Process" in Tiny 4.7 kW Reactor (Rossi E-cat)
Renewable Energy World ^ | 5.5.11 | Thomas Blakeslee

Posted on 05/05/2011 7:47:16 AM PDT by Free Vulcan

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To: Free Vulcan
The reactor is enclosed in a lead shield because some radiation is, unpredictably, produced during operation. However, the spent fuel is not radioactive but contains copper that has transmuted from nickel in the nuclear reaction.

If that's really happening, it's huge. Chemical reactions do not transmute elements. Chemical reactions do not produce the kind of radiation that needs lead shielding.

81 posted on 05/05/2011 12:24:04 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Pontiac
Someone is going to have to point me to a scientific journal somewhere it this biological process is described that transmutes isotopes with or without radiation.

A biological process that changes the relative concentrations of naturally occurring isotopes, I could believe. Compounds with different isotopes have different molecular weights, and a well-tuned biological process might filter differentially on that basis. But transmutation? No way! Biology and radiation are generally incompatible.

82 posted on 05/05/2011 12:31:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Pan_Yan

How would you like to be responsible for a power plant in your basement? Sounds too much like work.


83 posted on 05/05/2011 12:36:47 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: dangerdoc

We already have a pretty cheap coal.......that the FEDs are continually trying to restrict it’s use. There is more than one reason that the FEDs don’t want this cheap energy in America and all the reason have to do with control over the population.

Imagine having a hunting lodge way back in the bush. Fly in and stay for a month cooking dinner on your portable electric stove. Laying in bed and listening to music in the evenings on your portable electric radio that has been running for two weeks. Ready to come home? Bring your cheap energy with you and connect it to the house.

Yes, this will make changes in America and none of them have to do with the FEDs restricting our usage of electricity. We can get rid of these mercury infected light bulbs and go back to Edisons idea.


84 posted on 05/05/2011 1:18:09 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: B4Ranch
“We are not going to let you wastrels overheat our planet with this godawful new technology,” sayeth the Algore.
85 posted on 05/05/2011 1:35:23 PM PDT by badgerlandjim
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To: dangerdoc
How would you like to be responsible for a power plant in your basement? Sounds too much like work.

I don't want one in my basement, but for the subdivisions around my house I could see it. If I had one at my office building and it shaved 20% off our electric bill I'd hire someone to take care of the power plant full time and still come out way ahead.

86 posted on 05/05/2011 1:45:17 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: B4Ranch
If a decentralized power grid is in our future, the idea of globalist government is tossed out the window and washed into the gutter.

Given your own private source of cheap energy, lots of problems go away. Need clean drinking water? Cheap distillation from sea water or whatever polluted water source you have. Transport costs come way down. Using ion drive, fast interplanetary travel becomes viable. Lots of stuff happens. That's why I'm going to help form a lynching party if this is a scam.

87 posted on 05/05/2011 2:22:46 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: dangerdoc
All these things claim to do is make heat. You still need a way to turn heat to electricity. It is much cheaper to turn heat into electricity on a big scale than small scale. And servicing a couple hundred million boilers is going to be more expensive that servicing the grid.

The lack of pollution and radiation would mean that power plants could be built much closer to the residential areas that consume power, reducing the need for massive transmission systems. Lower generating costs would mean that it would be more viable to have spare generating capacity sitting idle in case of need rather than having to depend on the grid for peak power.

88 posted on 05/05/2011 2:31:36 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625

I wanted to help finance his research. Still would love to. Why don’t you read some of his books. C. Louis Kervran, 1998 “Biological Transmutations” is popular


89 posted on 05/05/2011 2:38:05 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: Boiler Plate
Is this producing electricity or heat? It seems from the article that it is producing heat, which would then need to be converted to steam to drive a turbine genrator to get electricity.

The October pilot plant will just produce hot water, maybe low-pressure steam, don't know the details.

To produce power, you need HIGH pressure steam, which means you need e-cat units that will work reliably with a high-pressure boiler. LOTS more capital investment to produce power: high-pressure boiler, turbine, generator, condenser, electrical equipment, etc. For his next project, he might want to do a heating plant that will provide heating steam to a block of office buildings in a place that has cold winters and high fuel costs.

I don't know what will be involved in re-fueling a production unit. I'm hoping it will be something like swapping a cartridge which then gets recycled at the factory.

90 posted on 05/05/2011 2:47:26 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: MrEdd

Please add me :)


91 posted on 05/05/2011 2:49:01 PM PDT by Eepsy
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To: B4Ranch
"If a decentralized power grid is in our future, the idea of globalist government is tossed out the window and washed into the gutter."

Heh! Think what it will mean for the "motor home" industry. Would take "boondocking" to a whole new level.

92 posted on 05/05/2011 2:56:32 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: dangerdoc
"All these things claim to do is make heat. You still need a way to turn heat to electricity. It is much cheaper to turn heat into electricity on a big scale than small scale."

True, but think of the efficiency of a "whole home" generator with the "waste heat" over and above electricity needs running your hot water heater, home furnace, and air conditioner (it "is" possible to run the cooling cycle of AC on a simple heat source"..desorption units).

The temperatures reached are plenty high enough to generate really high-pressure steam.

I wonder if there wouldn't be a resurgence of the "Stanley Steamer" (i.e steam powered cars).

93 posted on 05/05/2011 3:00:57 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: PapaBear3625

If you read the inventor’s information, he does not claim no radiation. If you read the theoretical mechanism, that beta thing zinging off is radiation.

He claims that he can adequately shield the radiation.


94 posted on 05/05/2011 3:03:00 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: citizen
"Why, do you think? Because Rossi has been unable to control the process inside a considerably larger reaction vessel?"

I think this is precisely why. If "self-sustaining" without the external "tickle" current, it tends to "run away".

95 posted on 05/05/2011 3:04:14 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: B4Ranch

“Imagine having a hunting lodge way back in the bush. Fly in and stay for a month cooking dinner on your portable electric stove. Laying in bed and listening to music in the evenings on your portable electric radio that has been running for two weeks. Ready to come home? Bring your cheap energy with you and connect it to the house.”

My point is, we have cheap heat now. The cost in making electricity is getting from heat to power. You aren’t going to pack your boiler and turbine with you, unless it is build into your car which now that I think about it, may be a reasonable approach...

I digress, boilers are no fun. High pressure steam is dangerous and keeping the whole thing going would turn into a job.

I’ve had to pump and presurize my own water in the past and it was a PIA. Things always quit working at the work times. This would be even more involved that running a couple of pumps and a tank.

Now put this in a thermo-electric generator and it may be worth the effort.


96 posted on 05/05/2011 3:10:33 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Have you ever seen the Mythbusters episode where they shoot a water heater through the roof of a house?

High pressure steam should be kept as far as posible from friends, loved ones, and favorite body parts.


97 posted on 05/05/2011 3:12:25 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: dangerdoc
"High pressure steam should be kept as far as posible from friends, loved ones, and favorite body parts."

At risk of sounding trite...beating that is simply engineering. There are already plenty of home generators powered by gasoline and diesel. Think of it, you actually have explosions going on in those constantly. Once upon a time, working with gasoline was considered "extremely hazardous".

And the original designers of the Stanley Steamer solved a lot of those problems. You keep the actual size of the boiler small (minimize pressure stored energy volume) and cycle the working fluid faster.

98 posted on 05/05/2011 3:18:18 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: PapaBear3625
Great, now we have lazy neutrons. Man this world is going to he$$.
99 posted on 05/05/2011 3:19:47 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: PapaBear3625

“The October pilot plant will just produce hot water, maybe low-pressure steam, don’t know the details.”

Oh, ok. I thought I read it would be used by an industry of some sort and if it worked as planned, Rossi would be paid for the installation. I assumed it would be generating electricity or facilitating the generation of the power. How much payment and what constitutes the device “working”, I do not know.


100 posted on 05/05/2011 4:10:04 PM PDT by citizen (Palin lost me when she dumped the people of Alaska to seek fame & fortune in the lower 48. Epic Fail)
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