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Swedish Skeptics Confirm "Nuclear Process" in Tiny 4.7 kW Reactor (Rossi E-cat)
Renewable Energy World ^ | 5.5.11 | Thomas Blakeslee

Posted on 05/05/2011 7:47:16 AM PDT by Free Vulcan

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41 posted on 05/05/2011 9:05:01 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: rokkitapps
that is awesome. does it work? if so, won’t these be used by everyone soon?

If it works, it will be world-changing. I'm going to wait for the 1 MW(thermal) pilot unit in Greece to start production in October before I get excited. I'm going to hold off until I see Rossi produce a 100MW electric plant, running continually. At that stage, it becomes very, very hard to fake this sort of thing.

42 posted on 05/05/2011 9:09:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Yeah, and he had to take a jab at “global warming deniers”, comparing us to those denying cold fusion.


43 posted on 05/05/2011 9:11:18 AM PDT by TStro
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To: PapaBear3625
Meant to say "I'm going to hold off until I see Rossi produce a 100MW electric plant, running continually, before becoming very excited".

If he can crank up a 100 MW power plant using an e-cat matrix, the world will no longer be ignoring him (and every arab in the world will be gunning for him, along with the Russians, because oil will suddenly become much less valuable)

44 posted on 05/05/2011 9:14:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: MrEdd

Please keep me on your Rossi Pinglist. Nice to know that there is one.

In 1989 I proposed that we power our factory with cold fusion. I was sitting talking with a Phd and drained my coffee cup, set it in front of him and told him that I would be happy to donate the cup as the new containment vessel. He just laughed....


45 posted on 05/05/2011 9:19:42 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: PapaBear3625

I wonder if this can be made self sustaining, as in you feed it water, it uses electricity to break it down into hydrogen and oxygen, which then it takes the hydrogen to use to power itself and you only have to replace the Nickel core every six months or so...


46 posted on 05/05/2011 9:20:14 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: JimRed
From the article "Powdered nickel and a catalyst are simply heated to about six hundred degrees centigrade in a stainless steel chamber filled with pressurized hydrogen. At a certain point, the gradual heating starts accelerating due to nuclear reactions in the metal lattice. The heating resistor is backed off to keep the reaction going at a steady state, with about 15 times more heat output than input."

Sounds like it becomes self sustaining at a certain point in the reaction.

47 posted on 05/05/2011 9:20:29 AM PDT by sniper63 (Endeavor to persevere, then go to war with 'em.....)
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To: PapaBear3625

[ If he can crank up a 100 MW power plant using an e-cat matrix, the world will no longer be ignoring him (and every arab in the world will be gunning for him, along with the Russians, because oil will suddenly become much less valuable)]

Well at least he was nice enough to tell us how in general terms to make this work.

I think that if tech like this gets suppressed one could take this tech and “use” it in plain sight without having to worry about cartel hits from the middle east/ russia.

How to do it?

Well take a couple acres out in the country and make it into a “solar power farm” Where the solar panels are nothing more than painted sheets of plexiglass mounted on posts and the power generating equipment, ie. the Rossi nickel cells and generators are in the shed marked “DC to AC converter station”

Just automate the thing so that when the sun goes down it shuts down and you could build these “fake solar farms” as a front to keep the oil barons and russian mob at bay.

When you get enough of these built and selling enough electricity to the grid to pay for them you buy out a couple local power companies and retrofit some old coal plants to these and take over the regional electric grid, then you announce that an entire city is running on this tech and release the information on how to build this on the internet and randomly mailed DVDs.

If they want to suppress it they would have to shut down an entire city....


48 posted on 05/05/2011 9:27:40 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: PapaBear3625

Besides 2-4 neutrons nickle still needs an additional proton to make copper. This thing must use one heck of a catalyst, possibly an unstable radioactive isotope to supply protons. If the Ni is giving up the proton for a ‘proton-electron binding process’ then where’s the cobalt or iron, etc. i.e. the Ni now missing a 1 or 2 protons?

Ref:

Ni = 28p, 28e and 30-32n
Cu = 29p, 29e and 34n

If this really works the day after it goes public the DOE and EPA will probably outlaw it, aka draft regulatory requirements for its use.


49 posted on 05/05/2011 9:32:28 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Hacklehead; bert

>“One of these tiny reactors could be used to power a wind turbine when the wind is calm”

Huh?<

power one up like a fan and make the other ones spin.


50 posted on 05/05/2011 9:34:54 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: JimRed

If you can make enough heat to overcome the losses and still generate enough electricity to run the machine, it is self sustaining.

Conventional fusion has worked for decades, they have just never been able to generate more electricity than they use.


51 posted on 05/05/2011 9:39:37 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: GraceG

Understandable mistake.

I really hope this is real. Win-win, as you said. And then the ME can eat their oil...


52 posted on 05/05/2011 9:39:48 AM PDT by piytar (The Four Horsemen: War, Pestilence, Famine, and Bob. Be not proud, Bob! (ht to Gen.Blather))
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To: sniper63
Sounds like it becomes self sustaining at a certain point in the reaction.

With nuclear reactions, that's generally not a happy-making thought...

From what I've been reading, there's probably some other stuff going on inside the e-cat to set up the electric fields needed. You want something that generates energy, but which you can turn off when you want to.

53 posted on 05/05/2011 9:45:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Free Vulcan
Biological processes have been found to produce transmuted isotopes without radiation.

Someone is going to have to point me to a scientific journal somewhere it this biological process is described that transmutes isotopes with or without radiation.

I am extreme skeptical of this article because of this one sentence in the article.

Either this author is a liar or a fool.

54 posted on 05/05/2011 9:46:42 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: JAKraig

1KW instantaneous is a measure of power that everyone realizes would be 1KWh if run for an hour. The “h” simply means per hour. Devices that use electricity are rated in watts or Kilo watts but understood to mean that although the measurement is instantaneous it would be that number of watts over the period of an hour.

A 100W light bulb would produce 1000W over 10 hours and .06Kw in 10 minutes but is still rated as 100W not 100 WH. Nobody that I know stands around with a stopwatch to turn off a device after exactly 1 hour.
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Not quite. 1KW is indeed a unit of power, or rate of energy production or consumption. It equals 1000 x 3600 Joules per hour, or 1000 Joules per second. A Joule is a unit of energy: 1 W-second (1Ws) = 1 Joule. 1KWh means 1KW x 1 hour (not per hour) which is, again, an amount of enery, not power. So we can say that 1KW = 1KWh per hour. A 100W light bulb would produce (or rather consume) 1000Wh in 10 hours, and it would consume 16.7 Wh in 10 minutes (one sixth of an hour), or 0.0167 KWh.


55 posted on 05/05/2011 9:48:36 AM PDT by D. S. Mayfield
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To: Justa
I found an article where Rossi's nuclear reaction is described (LENR = low energy nuclear reaction):

The "ULM neutron" in the diagram stands for "ultra low momentum neutron".

56 posted on 05/05/2011 9:49:44 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: dangerdoc

“power one up like a fan and make the other ones spin.”

Use the electricity from the reactor to turn a windmill to make electricity? Sounds like a govt program.


57 posted on 05/05/2011 9:50:32 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Interesting thread bump to the top. Thanks for posting it, my friend.


58 posted on 05/05/2011 9:55:13 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Justa

Explaining the diagram in my last post, 64-nickel (nickel with an atomic weight of 64, an isotope that occurs in 0.92% of natural nickel) captures an ultra-low-momentum neutron, and becomes 65-nickel (and emits energy). The 65-nickel has one of its neutrons turn into a proton (beta decay) emitting an electron (and more energy) and turning into 65-copper, a stable isotope.


59 posted on 05/05/2011 9:57:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Pan_Yan

If a decentralized power grid is in our future, the idea of globalist government is tossed out the window and washed into the gutter.


60 posted on 05/05/2011 10:17:48 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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