Not when determining NATURAL born citizenship, they're not.
Did you even read the link I posted? If not, then you are obstinate.
If you don’t take the time to read it, and then discuss why you disagree (if you do, which would be very difficult), then you are clinging to a belief that is irrational and not founded on anything other than your beliefs.
http://www.freerepublic.com/~rxsid/