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Lamh Foistenach Abu!
Posted on 04/29/2011 12:22:43 AM PDT by naturalman1975
THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS ISSUED BY THE PRESS SECRETARY TO THE QUEEN
The Queen has today been pleased to confer a Dukedom on Prince William of Wales. His titles will be Duke of Cambridge, Earl of Strathearn and Baron Carrickfergus.
Prince William thus becomes His Royal Highness The Duke of Cambridge and Miss Catherine Middleton on marriage will become Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Cambridge.
Background:
DUKEDOM: Cambridge:
In 1706 George Augustus (subsequently George II) the only son of George Ludwig, Elector of Hanover (subsequently George I of Great Britain) was created with other titles Duke of Cambridge. On the accession of his father to the throne in 1714 he also became Duke of Cornwall and was created Prince of Wales. On his own accession to the throne in 1727 the Dukedom of Cambridge merged with The Crown and ceased.
Cambridge was previously a Royal Dukedom and four sons of James, Duke of York (afterwards James II) who died in infancy were all created Duke of Cambridge. As an Earldom Cambridge was a medieval Royal title. Edward IV was Duke of York and Earl of Cambridge till proclaimed King of England in 1461 when his titles merged with The Crown.
His father and grandfather both Richard Plantagenet were both Earls of Cambridge and the latter was also Duke of York. Edmund of Langley, 5th son of Edward III and great-grandfather of Edward IV, was created Earl of Cambridge in 1362 and Duke of York in 1385.
The Dukedom of Cambridge created in 1801 became extinct on the death of the 2nd Duke of Cambridge in 1904. Cambridge existed as a Marquessate from 1917 when it was conferred on Queen Mary’s brother till 1981 when the 2nd Marquess died and the title became extinct.
EARLDOM: Strathearn
Strathearn has had Royal connections since Robert Stewart, High Steward of Scotland, was created Earl of Strathearn in 1357. In 1371 he succeeded his Uncle as King of Scotland becoming Robert II and the Earldom merged with The Crown Robert II created his 5th son David, Earl of Strathearn in 1371. Subsequently in 1427 the 6th son of Robert II was created Earl of Strathearn.
In 1766 George III’s younger brother Prince Henry Frederick was created Duke of Cumberland and Strathearn. He died without issue in 1790 and in 1799 Queen Victoria’s father was created Duke of Kent and Strathearn. These Dukedoms became extinct on his death in 1820. Finally, Prince Arthur William Patrick Albert, 3rd son of Queen Victoria was created Duke of Connaught and Strathearn in 1874. He died in 1942 and was succeeded by his grandson who died the following year 1943 since when Strathearn as a title has been extinct.
BARONY: Carrickfergus:
An Irish Viscountcy of Chichester of Carrickfergus now held by the Marquess of Donegall was created in 1625 but Carrickfergus alone only existed as a title between 1841 and 1883. The 3rd Marquess of Donegall was created Baron Ennishowen and Carrickfergus, of Ennishowen, co: Donegal and Carrickfergus, co: Antrim. He died in 1883 being succeeded by his brother and the Barony became extinct.
Carrickfergus is County Antrim’s oldest town. The word means Rock of Fergus and as an urban settlement it predates Belfast. It is on the north shore of Belfast Lough and is the site of Carrickfergus Castle which dates from circa 1180 and is one of the best preserved Castles in Ireland.
Any inside info on the snub of Blair?
And snubbing Fergie, sheesh. Given the ugly behaviour of Charles you would think the Queen could get her nose out of the air long enough to show some forgiveness.
I love the idea of the royal family, I just wish they weren’t so harsh to their own.
A trying lot, are they. Strange doings when Edward VIII gave up the throne to marry “the woman I love” in 1938 or so. It was said that the former monarch was conducting himself as a common English butler waiting on her hand and foot.
Charles is unfit to be King. His marriage to Dianna proved that. Elizabeth knows this too. When Elizabeth steps down Charles will abdicate the Crown which, by default, will confer to William as King. I also think that Charles has no desire to be King.
“you don’t vote for kings...”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xd_zkMEgkI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
“you don’t vote for kings...”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xd_zkMEgkI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
With all considered, the marriage is an indication that my favorite Harry may become Prince of Whales, although it is not certain and not beyond his reach to become Henry X if his brother and his family so decide to put some vigor back into the royal house.
The Crown has been for the last several decades completely irrelevant to the health of the country and its people. If they do not assert their power very soon, it will result in the complete dissolution of their position and Buckingham Palace will be nothing but a crumbling relic.
A question for you. Do these titles confer any real power on the holder?
For example, William is now the Duke of Cambridge. What does that imply? Does William now have any control over Cambridge? Does he have a veto power on who becomes the next mayor of Cambridge?
Or is “Duke of Cambridge” nothing more than an empty honorary title?
I’ve been to Carrickfergus. Very scenic.
Charles said in a splashy magazine article about 10-15 years ago that should he become king he will disolve the monarchy. This was before Diana died. In the article he said he doesn’t want to be king, he wants to putter on his land and grow things.
Lamh Foistenach Abu!
Surprised the debacle of 30 years ago didn’t dampen the fervor for this nonsense.
Surprised the debacle of 30 years ago didn’t dampen the fervor for this nonsense.
Nice work if you can get it.
If I had any inside information, I wouldn't really be able to share it. My personal opinion is that it is being seriously overstated. This was not a state occasion, and there was no reason for former Prime Ministers to be invited. It should not be assumed to be a snub.
Yes, Baroness Thatcher and Sir John Major were both invited - but they were invited as Knights of the Garter - members of the very small order of Knights that constitutes the highest order of chivalry (Blair is believed to have declined a Knighthood, Brown may not have been offered one yet - he hasn't been out of office very long). All the Garter Knights were invited. Further, Sir John was appointed as William's legal guardian after the death of Diana, Princess of Wales. He has a significant personal relationship with William for that reason.
Some people are suggesting William does not personally like Tony Blair, because of issues relating to the aftermath of his mother's death. I have no knowledge on that score.
And snubbing Fergie, sheesh. Given the ugly behaviour of Charles you would think the Queen could get her nose out of the air long enough to show some forgiveness.
I have heard - and this only what I have heard - that Sarah, Duchess of York asked that no invitation be issued. She is aware that her recent behaviour has caused some embarassment to the Royal Family, and to the Duke of York, and did not want controversy to detract from her nephew's wedding. Again, this is only what I have heard.
Her Majesty swore an oath to God, to serve her people as Queen until the day she dies. She is deeply religious, and she takes an oath seriously. The only circumstance, I believe, in which she would consider abdication is if she became incapable of discharging her duties as Queen.
Harry could only become Prince of Wales if his brother dies before their father. Even if William becomes King without yet having a son or daughter, Harry would only be Heir Presumptive - and only the Heir Apparent can be Prince of Wales.
If he does somehow become King - which is not absolutely impossible - he is at the moment, third in line - he would be Henry IX - the last Henry was still Henry VIII.
The Crown has been for the last several decades completely irrelevant to the health of the country and its people. If they do not assert their power very soon, it will result in the complete dissolution of their position and Buckingham Palace will be nothing but a crumbling relic.
The Crown is only supposed to assert its powers in particular situations of Constitutional crisis. None of these have arisen in recent years - if, for example, Gordon Brown, had decided not to resign after last years election, the Queen would have been compelled to act - but he did what he was supposed to do, so that was unnecessary. When the British system is functioning the way it is meant to, the Monarch is not meant to intervene.
You caught that... very good...
I wondered when someone might get it... the Royal Family has gelded themselves so horribly, none of it has any meaning any more, so being the Duck of Corn Wall is just as effective a title as any other...
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