[MissesBush]

So what do the Trump supporters think of their man going out and undermining the best idea yet the GOP has produced to control deficits and especially the explosion in entitlements? How does Trump propose to deal with Medicare's $50 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities while keeping the program unchanged and unreformed? Does he even have a plan or is this just more of his mindless, Bill O'Reilly-like populism which takes no account of the consequences of his knee jerk positions?

[Rudder]

What else is Ryan known for besides his budget?

[sickoflibs]

RE :”The Democratic Party is urging Americans to choose Medicare as we've always known it rather than a new plan by Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) that would enroll seniors in private health insurance beginning in 2022. This choice is a hoax: Medicare as we've always known it is already gone. It was eviscerated by President Obama’s health law. Yet if the president and the Democratic Party successfully bamboozle voters, they may win back independents and registered Democrats who voted for Republicans in 2010. The 2012 election could turn on this falsehood. The truth is that the Obama health law reduces future funding for Medicare by $575 billion over the next 10 years and spends the money on other programs, including a vast expansion of Medicaid. In 2019, Medicare spending under the Obama health law is projected to be $14,731 per senior, instead of $16,162 if the law had not passed, according to Medicare actuaries (Health Affairs, October 2010). “

I agree. Democrats are making it politically a choice between current medicare and the Ryan plan. Well few would personally select the Ryan plan for themselves compared to today's Medicare benefits (that we pay for now with medicare taxes) if given the choice.

So Republicans need to EFFECTIVELY make the case for what the real choice is :

1) How much does medicare cost (with time)?
2) How much revenue can be collected to pay for it and where?
3) What are the real choices for medicare?
4) What are the real drawbacks/benefits of future medicare vs Ryan plan?
5) What problems will the higher taxes cause?
6) What about higher deficits, what problems will they cause
7) Why will Ryan's plan help me (average voters) personally?

Maybe they need to to have someone write a paper since this plan isnt going anyplace anytime soon. And some decent talking points so their members can defend it on TV and Townhall meetings.

[hosepipe]

If Trump is not FOR Ryans package "its a tell"..
The man is bluffing.. the next interviewer of Trump should call his BLUFF..

Note: Bill O'Really pick up the courtesy phone in the lobby.. Sean, Glen, Greta... anyone..

[Prokopton]

What does this article have to do with Trump?

[RicocheT]

This WSJ article well shows how the Democrat lie that the GOP Paul Ryan budget hurts seniors and Medicare is bogus.

ObamaCare has already gutted Medicare and swept millions of idle Americans into Medicaid so none of us can expect a working health care system after 2012.

Ryan has a way to keep people now 55 and over in a financially sound Medicare and a fiscally sound start for those now under 55 to have help in buying medical insurance that approximates what they had hoped Medicare would have provided for the future. The Senate Democrats and Omoma have no plan other than a lie to try to stay in power in 2012.