[Walkingfeather]

if we were serious about winning it would have been over.

[trapped_in_LA]

“if we were serious about winning it would have been over.”

You guys that say this are intentionally ignoring history, you don’t think that the Brits and the Russians weren’t serious about winning in this pest hole? Unless you want to depopulate the whole of Afghanistan of it’s native population there isn’t much that you can do to win, serious or not.

[Forgotten Amendments]

if we were serious about winning it would have been over.

It was over 15 minutes after it started. Just like Iraq. We "won". What is going on is colonization ("nation building"). For some reason, the natives object.

I am so sick of hearing these called "wars" and the terms "winning" and "losing" tossed around. The military did its job. They won. They should come home.