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To: OldNewYork
I suggest that you use the key words: Ron Paul, PORK, and PORK in Bills; perhaps even Paul's voting record.

Oh, then yes, you misused the word "debate", but no matter, what you have assumed has never happened anyway. And when he was in the debates, in '08, nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, ever picked up on what you imagine would have sparked further debate.

I don't drink beer..........I just change the channel or shut off the sound when he's on; though I did watch every single moment of the debates, both the GOP and Dem ones, in '08.

What I was specifically referring to was when his rabid, thuggish supporters threw snowballs at Sean Hannity and his crew and attempted to harm them in other ways, as they were exiting a debate ( I think it was in N.H., maybe not...there was lots of snow ) back in '08, that Ron Paul hadn't been invited to and they blamed him. And, as a personal aside, from what I saw of them, myself, in action, at a different political venue.

When illicit drugs were legal, most people had little idea how addicting they were and recreational drug taking was confined to the fringe of the fringe; mostly outcasts and "Bohemians", the Demi-Mode and the Demi-Modains,as well as a few of the upper crust, who were simply thrill seekers. There are records though, of nannies and day care ( which was called BABY FARMING back then ) giving babies and young children laudanum, just to keep them semiconscious; many times almost or killing them.

By making them legal now, would take away whatever little stigma there is to it left, and things would only be worse.

57 posted on 04/26/2011 11:26:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

“I suggest that you use the key words: Ron Paul, PORK, and PORK in Bills; perhaps even Paul’s voting record.”

Thanks, I’ll have a look, probably tomorrow as it’s late.

“Oh, then yes, you misused the word “debate”, but no matter,”

I could have been clearer if it was confusing to you, but it’s not actually a misuse of ‘debate’. If it were, it’s in wide enough circulation and accepted ubiquitously so that limiting its use only to a formal debate would be the idiosyncratic usage.

“what you have assumed has never happened anyway. And when he was in the debates, in ‘08, nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, ever picked up on what you imagine would have sparked further debate.”

I admire your confidence with sweeping generalizations unless you’re only limiting this statement to the formal debates.

If it were only snowballs then maybe it wasn’t that serious, but if they were harassing them in other ways in addition to that, it doesn’t look good to me. After writing before, I remembered seeing on video one group of Ron Paul supporters at CPAC harass another supporter of Ron Paul because they didn’t like his other views, to the point where he left for his own safety. They say that the plural of anecdote is data, so your own observations are valid. He will have to do more to reign them in if he’s concerned by this, as I am.

Laudanum was a pharmaceutical medication used as a sedative, so its abuse in nurseries or day-cares of the day would be more similar to pharmaceutical abuse today, like over-prescribing Ritalin or otherwise chemical-warehousing of people. I was more referring to hemp’s flowers and the resin from it, and coca leaves like in things like Vin Mariani, the predecessor of Coca-Cola. But we both agree, at minimum, it’s not something that could even be up for discussion presently.

“By making them legal now, it would take away whatever little stigma there is to it left, and things would only be worse.”

Right, that’s a significant reason why.


59 posted on 04/26/2011 11:57:06 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: nopardons

Manchester, NH. The pundits were watching the debate from a nearby bar, doing, I think, the post-debate analysis. It was the Sunday before the NH primary.


76 posted on 04/27/2011 3:45:31 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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