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To: arrogantsob
It is hard to believe that America would have benefited in ANY way from a German victory.

Why is it hard to believe? Germany was one of our largest trading partners before the war. We had a huge German population and had always had a peaceful relationship with Germany. If Germany had not lost the war there would have been no Hitler and no Soviet Union. If the US had not joined the war Britain and France would have been forced to enter into a negotiated peace, probably as early as 1916. Five or six million men would have lived, including a million British. Perhaps the British Empire would not have collapsed leaving dozens of tin pot dictators behind. All of the current problems in the Middle East stem from the victors scramble for loot at the end of WWI - even Osama Bin Laden says so. It's easy for me to see how the US could have benefited from a different outcome to that war.

43 posted on 04/23/2011 9:33:43 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp
Germany was under the control of the Kaiser who was practically certifiable. His government was not one inclined to produce peace. And his government was directly responsible for the creation of the Soviet Union since it put Lenin and the Bolsheviks back into Russia in the first place. The creation of the Soviet Union was more the fault of Germany than any other nation.

Hitler was a creature of the German High Command as well and resuscitated the party which it had controlled throughout the war transforming it into the Nazi party. So the two things you claim could have been avoided: the USSR and Hitler were both products of the German Army.

Your scenario is possible but not to me very likely given the nature of the German Army and the Kaiser. It would have been only a matter of time before the German power would have recovered and gone back on the attack. And the Soviet Union would have been an ally.

63 posted on 04/23/2011 9:50:18 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: SeeSharp

Actually, the USSR would have still existed - just in a weaker form and with a stronger German counter-balance. The Treaty of Brest-Litovic was between the USSR and Germany...


119 posted on 04/24/2011 2:47:55 AM PDT by DJ Elliott (Montrose Toast Blog)
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To: SeeSharp
It's easy for me to see how the US could have benefited from a different outcome to that war.

Yes, in the year 2011, it is easy to see...

But what foreseeable benefits would a U.S. engagement have had in 1918? I mean: Apart from the fact that the Wilson Administration, in keeping with its hidden agenda, provoked/engineered and/or instigated the overt casus belli?

Regards,

139 posted on 04/24/2011 4:05:11 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: SeeSharp

“It’s easy for me to see how the US could have benefited from a different outcome to that war.”

I agree completely. The burning question is this: In that light, what the heck happened to get millions of American citizens to deide that Germany was evil and needed to be destroyed? What does it take to ‘convert’ a whole population in the course of a year or so? In 1915 America was totally cool with Germany. We were ‘pals’! In 1917 we decided to kill them. ALL of America changed their attitude. What kind of propaganda has the power to do this????


160 posted on 04/24/2011 6:10:09 AM PDT by freepguy (Man never does evil more completely or more cheerfully as when he does it with religious conviction.)
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