[cynwoody]

I have spoken to him. I am CERTAIN he would not answer anything relating to Obama’s COLB or the records which generated it.

That's the Hawaii privacy law. However, Chiyome Fukino recently claimed to have examined the actual long form twice and that everything is on the up and up, that the facts match what the CoLB says, and that the doubts are silly.

So, to attack the CoLB, one must establish that Hawaii is lying and covering for Obama and has been since 2007, when a Republican was governor.

[holden]

To find fault with the COLB does not require that "Hawaii" is lying. That Barry's COLB's seal displays gibberish when all authentic seals on authentic COLBS display "State of Hawaii" and "Department of Health" tells all thoughtful people all they need to hear!

Fukino's public statements don't include her saying "everything is on the up and up" or that "the facts match what the COLB says", as you claim. Hmmmm.

She used to be an employee of the Health Department, but is no longer. Her comments are completely at variance with those of the current Attorney General and Governor of Hawaii. The variations rather clearly suggest that at least one party is not telling the truth. When all the data are tracked down, Fukino comes up short in my book.

HF

[edge919]

That's the Hawaii privacy law. However, Chiyome Fukino recently claimed to have examined the actual long form twice and that everything is on the up and up, that the facts match what the CoLB says, and that the doubts are silly.

This is false. She did't say the facts match what the COLB says or that everything is on the up and up. You're connecting dots she never connected.

[TigersEye]

However, Chiyome Fukino recently claimed to have examined the actual long form twice and that everything is on the up and up, that the facts match what the CoLB says, and that the doubts are "silly".

That has been proven false.

The Hawaii Department of Health receives about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obama's birth certificate, spokesman Okubo said.

"I guess the big issue that's being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature," Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. "Because they scanned the front … you wouldn't see those things." (we know that is false from .jpegs posted on this thread)

Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.

And about the copy we e-mailed her for verification? "When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it."

Still, she acknowledges: "I don't know that it's possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents."

The last statement tells the tale. They haven't and can't verify the COLB.