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Gary Johnson announces presidential run
CBS News ^ | 4/21/2011 | Stephanie Condon

Posted on 04/21/2011 11:30:46 AM PDT by logician2u

Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson announced today that he's running for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

"I'm ready for a different America," Johnson said in a statement today. "I'm ready for the day when a person can build a good life on a decent income, and we can take our government at its word."

Johnson announced his candidacy Thursday morning on the steps of the New Hampshire State House and plans to spend three days in the early-nominating state meeting with supporters and visiting local businesses.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; bongbrigade; donquixote; garyjohnson; johnson; johnson2012; libertarian
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To: sitetest

New tagline...


361 posted on 04/21/2011 9:27:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (What part of NO PERSON SHALL BE DEPRIVED OF LIFE do you fail to understand?)
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To: All

A note concerning the “rape” exception pushed by one now former freeper on this thread:

Consistent with the Scriptural prohibition on punishing a child for the crime of his or her father, Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution prohibits “corruption of blood” laws.

Constitutionally, innocent persons cannot be punished for the sins of their parent.

This is Free Republic. Do we still care about the Constitution of the United States?


362 posted on 04/21/2011 9:31:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (What part of NO PERSON SHALL BE DEPRIVED OF LIFE do you fail to understand?)
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To: Defend Liberty

“He’s pro abortion and favors legalizing marijuana.”

Hope he doesn’t run then.


363 posted on 04/21/2011 10:48:48 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Vaquero

The “OWL party”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OWL_Party

Lived through it...was there.


364 posted on 04/21/2011 11:14:13 PM PDT by blackd77
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To: AbeLincoln
Not interested. He’s pro-abortion. I’m never going to vote for a pro-abortion candidate.

Yep, me too! That issue is a non-starter for me. Any candidate that doesn't get the number one unalienable right - the right to life - will NEVER get my vote. I'd sit it out before I would vote for them. The RNC had better not try that with us.

365 posted on 04/21/2011 11:41:43 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: logician2u

Guy Who Backs Abortion, Pot Legalization, and Gay Rights Running for GOP Nomination

If, like most people, you aren't familiar with Johnson, a rundown of some of his beliefs might convince you he's a liberal Democrat: He supports legalizing marijuana, abortion rights, and civil unions; opposes the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; wants to slash defense spending; and doesn't go to church.
366 posted on 04/21/2011 11:57:17 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: fwdude

Could the Professor win in 2012? I doubt it. In 2008, the American people voted for Gilligan.


367 posted on 04/22/2011 5:28:57 AM PDT by Tribune7 (We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Dear EternalVigilance,

I agree with you almost entirely. I would rephrase your final paragraph. You wrote:

“All men are created equal. It’s America’s first and most important cornerstone principle, without which the whole house will fall down.”

I'd say it thusly:

“All men are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights and it is the first duty of government to recognize and protect those rights. This is America's first and most important cornerstone principle, without which the whole house will fall down.”


sitetest

368 posted on 04/22/2011 5:39:02 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Dear EternalVigilance,

“That's exactly how the child-killers got their nose in the door. In the states. Through ‘exceptions.’”

I agree.

But I guess my view is that it won't be possible to completely protect the rights of unborn children in law until the culture changes a good deal. Without creating an authoritarian state in our country, it will be difficult to adopt laws, or a constitutional amendment, or what-have-you, that completely and totally bans abortion without first getting the folks generally to be ready to accept it, first.

In a representative democracy, it's difficult to try to run too far ahead of the people. You gotta take what you can get and then be prepared to go back for more.

And the problem is, as much as the culture shapes the law, the law also shapes the culture. And the demonic legal regime under which we now suffer has shaped, warped our culture in such a way that substantial majorities of folks in many parts of our country can't imagine living in a society without at least some limited abortion license.

A change from “abortion is a right” to “abortion should be dealt with at the state level, and by and large should be generally restricted” is a fundamental change of the tectonics of the issue. It will change the culture and make it possible eventually to adopt universally a legal regime that recognizes the inalienable right to life of every human being, born and unborn.

I'm sorry that I don't see a way from where we are today to where we must eventually go without these intermediate steps. Sometimes I wish that I'd wake up, and we'd have a couple of new justices on the Court who would lead the way in a new (and more accurate) thinking about the relationship of the Declaration to the Constitution, about the 5th and 14th Amendments, about the entire underlying purpose of the Constitution, and that the Court would then rule, perhaps 6 - 3, that not only is Roe reversed, but that the right of every unborn child to life is recognized as a matter of fundamental Constitutional law.

But my sense is that would cause as much controversy and as many years of controversy with the pro-aborts as nearly 40 years of the Roe regime have caused with us.

The law and the culture are sort of two legs that need to work together. Right now, the culture is out in front of the law, I think that there are large parts of America ready to take the step of significant and dramatic restrictions on killing unborn babies. So, now, it's the law's turn to take a step. I think that step can be a pretty big one.

However, there's nothing that I see in the culture, within the people, that suggests that folks are ready for a final step, such as passing a Human Life Amendment. At this time, enough people in the United States think abortion is a “right,” that we will not elect sufficient US Representatives and Senators to pass something like it out of the Congress, and we certainly will not elect enough supporters in 38 states to ratify such an amendment.

But if we move to a society where folks generally don't have abortion available to them, except in the “exception” cases, we stand some chance of moving the culture further to accept that even this allowance cannot stand, is not congruent with our true Constitutional principles, or the law of God.

Of course, another way to change a culture is through some sort of discontinuity, like a civil war. That will do it very quickly, within a matter of a few years, or even less.

But I'm not in favor of bringing about discontinuities. I don't like them, I much prefer trying to make things happen in peaceful, non-cataclysmic, non-catastrophic ways.

That's not to say that such an event might not come about, if for no other reason than God is just.

We should beg God for mercy, that He not treat us as we deserve.


sitetest

369 posted on 04/22/2011 5:59:27 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Tainan
LOL! You seemed to have dragged yourself in, sir, by siding with the zotted Alinsky-ite (your word for the bad behavior in this 'mess') in your quite voluntary post.

Just wanted to call the irony to your attention.

Thank you. :)

370 posted on 04/22/2011 6:34:35 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: logician2u

I am looking forward to Johnson injecting some sensible libertarian ideas into the debate. The “evangelical” wing of the GOP has held sway for too long on the debate and the tea party message is libertarian based.


371 posted on 04/22/2011 6:35:57 AM PDT by NCBraveheart ("oderint dum metuant"........Let them hate, as long as they fear.)
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To: patlin

For those who think he’s a RINO,, his record is New Mexico as governor was solid. Rabidly pro business, and rabid about putting individuals in charge of their own lives. He has very little tolerance for the hard left, or for any government getting into any individual’s business. Thats likely where his abortion and drug stand comes from,, for what it’s worth.
He is more afraid of a government excercising total control over the lives of everyone, than he is about people making a wrong choice personally. A fine line,,, but a real one with him.


372 posted on 04/22/2011 7:12:36 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: NCBraveheart
the tea party message is libertarian based.

Hogwash.

The tea party message is exactly what it has always been since Sam Adams started it.

373 posted on 04/22/2011 7:15:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (What part of NO PERSON SHALL BE DEPRIVED OF LIFE do you fail to understand?)
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To: NCBraveheart
The “evangelical” wing of the GOP has held sway for too long on the debate and the tea party message is libertarian based.

Is that why so many of my fellow Tea Partiers are Evangelicals??

The Tea Party is CONSERVATIVE.....and some of your 'sensible libertarian ideas' are anything BUT conservative.

374 posted on 04/22/2011 7:48:59 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Silly me, Sam Adams had nothing to do with personal liberty, low taxes etc etc. He must have been a Palin-ite


375 posted on 04/22/2011 7:50:36 AM PDT by NCBraveheart ("oderint dum metuant"........Let them hate, as long as they fear.)
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To: ohioWfan
The Tea Party is CONSERVATIVE

I would like to know what you think conservative is. Not picking a fight here, but it seems sometimes everyone here at FR has their own definition of conservatism. I just like to check in on the current perspective of conservatism.
376 posted on 04/22/2011 7:54:49 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: ohioWfan
The Tea Party is CONSERVATIVE

I would like to know what you think conservative is. Not picking a fight here, but it seems sometimes everyone here at FR has their own definition of conservatism. I just like to check in on the current perspective of conservatism.
377 posted on 04/22/2011 7:54:59 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: NCBraveheart

Well, if you want to call yourself silly, since I don’t really know you, I won’t argue.


378 posted on 04/22/2011 7:58:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (What part of NO PERSON SHALL BE DEPRIVED OF LIFE do you fail to understand?)
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To: PeterPrinciple
In the context of the discussion of the thread, it includes a strong, unwavering pro-life stance.

It also includes fiscal conservatism, Constitutional principles, personal responsibility, patriotism, and support of the military.

btw, I don't consider your question "picking a fight" in the least.

379 posted on 04/22/2011 8:00:38 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: NCBraveheart
Samuel Adams was a moral conservative, by the way.

"A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader."

-- Samuel Adams in a letter to James Warren dated February 12, 1779.


380 posted on 04/22/2011 8:02:26 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (What part of NO PERSON SHALL BE DEPRIVED OF LIFE do you fail to understand?)
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