Posted on 04/20/2011 12:17:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
For the first time, Rep. Michele Bachmann who is actively considering a run for the White House in 2012 -- has said that the birth certificate President Obama has released to the public puts an end to the "birther" issue. It came when I showed her the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth published on FactCheck.org.
It happened this morning on GMA. Heres the key exchange:
Stephanopoulos: Last night you were on Fox News suggesting the president should come forward with his birth certificate as well --
Bachmann: Well, what I have said about that is, I was asked a question about that and Republicans are constantly asked to vouch for the authenticity of the birth certificate. The only one who can is the clerk of court in the county where someone is born and thats where people should go. Dont ask Republicans, go ask the clerk of court.
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You are a tiresome and intellectually dishonest boor. Sophist extraordinare.
Bu that is NOT the question at issue. By too young, I meant she was not yet 21 when Barack was born and his putative father was a British subject.
According to Mr. Rogers.. Ben Franklin, Alexander Morse, James Gilmore, Charles Fenwick, John Marshall, James Wilson, George Washington, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson..and others are idiots because they adhered to “an obscure Swiss man”.
Someone too STUPID to know what the law of nations means shouldn’t post at all. It just embarrasses your side.
The common-law rule makes the offspring of two citizens citizens also. If the two 16 year olds are citizens, then their children are citizens.
But Obama’s case is, of course very different.
You didn’t respond to my earlier inquiry about what information is on your and your adult children’s “Certificate(s) of Live Birth” which IS a “birth certificate.”
What Team Obama put out is a CERTIFICATION of live birth that has virtually NO information on it. Those CERTIFICATION(s) of Live Birth could be and were obtained by the likes of Sun Yat-Sen. The HI rules were, at a minimum, very lax in 1961.
But again I would request that you take your Certificate of Live Birth and let us know what information categories it contains. Thanks.
I'm not arguing with the Supreme Court, i'm arguing with you. If you don't comprehend the difference between an argument based on "first principles" and the "Fallacy of Authority" then I'm not EVEN going to argue with you.
I don't CARE what courts have decided. I care what the FOUNDERS have decided.
Unless you've got a Supreme Court case specifically dealing with Article II compliance, I don't want to hear your court cases.
I know One Supreme Court Decision (Wong Kim Ark I think) specifically said they WERE NOT dealing with "Natural Born Citizen" issues. Find one that does and you've got my attention.
Great find! I’ve already bookmarked it.
WKA dealt at great length with the NBC clause, because if WKA was a natural born citizen, then he was a citizen per the Constitution. They didn’t spend over half the ruling discussing NBC for fun.
But those too stupid to figure that out are doomed to lose in court. Every single case.
Fine. Let's argue the converse. If Wong Kim Ark, born to Two Chinese Citizens is considered to be qualified under Article II, then who is not?
“If Wong Kim Ark, born to Two Chinese Citizens is considered to be qualified under Article II, then who is not?”
Naturalized citizens.
I don’t think this discussion is worth continuing. At least not for me.
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