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To: yldstrk
We already know Annie was in Kenya at the time of the birth

No we don't.

This is like the "US citizens couldn't travel to Pakistan in 1981" nonsense.

Birtherism is problematic because some birthers mix fact with speculation and outright lies.

What's a fact is that "Obama" won't release his birth certificate, or doesn't have one. Nobody can go wrong pounding that home.

If you have ANY evidence that Stanley Anne Dunham was in Kenya, EVER, prior to August 4, 1961 I'd love to see it.

Just as long as it isn't a link to another birther nut website.

26 posted on 04/19/2011 7:21:33 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: Jim Noble

I don’t know where he was born. All I know is that Hawaii could not approve his eligibility and Nancy Pelosi had a fit and took it upon herself to sign him off without having confirmed that he was eligible.

My question is: Why would a US Citizen find it necessary to have to steal a social security number when all he had to do is present a birth certificate and get his own legally?

SOCIAL SECURITY FRAUD FILED AGAINST OBAMA

The video of how the investigator found it and what she found

http://youtu.be/IZlaIS5o9Vs

Susan Daniel’s Affidavit Regarding Obama’s Social Security Number(s)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/31235646/Susan-Daniels-Affidavit-Regarding-Obama-s-Social-Security-Number-s

Related Story:

Another look at Obama’s Social Security number:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=275861

Photo of one of mentioned Barack Obama Social Security numbers with the date (1890) above his date of birth... http://i53.tinypic.com/2rw3kat.jpg

——————— connecting the dots ———————

Other related stories:

Russian Investigative Report: No Evidence of Hawaiian Birth for Obama:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/russian-investigative-report-no-evidence-of-hawaiian-birth-for-obama_112010

Social Security Fraud Filed:
http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/social-security-fraud-filed

THE CATELOG OF HIDDEN DOCUMENTS FROM AKA OBAMA’S PAST

So far we have only talked about the original birth certificate, supposedly locked up in Hawaii, and AKA OBAMA’s draft and college records. Already the potential sources for leaks are numerous. And you can bet that AKA OBAMA and his lawyers are concerned about many more possible leaks than these.

There is a long list of vulnerability points for leaks, and there is a story behind every one of them. This list is one of many available and comes from one of my favorite blogs

I don’t know how legit this Kenyan birth certificate is. I’m not one who is quick to buy into things. What I do know, however, is that Obama has yet to release his Birth Certificate and because of that he leaves himself wide open to suspicions and speculation. The birth certificate is not the only thing he’s hiding:

• Original, vault copy birth certificate – Not released – Lawyers fees – greater than $1,000,000 – birth certificate – $15.
• Certification of Live Birth – Released – Counterfeit – Case and Affidavits
• Admitted British citizenship at birth – Confirmed via FactCheck.org/FightTheSmears.com
• Birth Announcement – Alleged to be a forgery
• Obama/Dunham marriage license – Not released
• Obama/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
• Soetoro/Dunham marriage license – Not released
• Soetoro adoption records – Not released
• Fransiskus Assisi School School application – Released (by independent investigators)
• Punahou School records – Not released
• Soetoro/Dunham divorce – Released (by independent investigators)
• Selective Service Registration – Released – Counterfeit – Document Locator Number update – another FOIA request
• Occidental College records – Not released
• Passport – Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser
• Columbia College records – Not released
• Columbia thesis – “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” – Not released
• Harvard College records – Not released
• Harvard Law Review articles – None
• Illinois Bar Records – Not released.
• Baptism certificate – None
• Medical records – Not released
• Illinois State Senate records – None
• Illinois State Senate schedule – Lost
• Law practice client list – Not released
• University of Chicago scholarly articles – None
• Kindergarten records – this” lost or hidden” incident deserves more detail:


56 posted on 04/19/2011 7:40:13 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Jim Noble
Just as long as it isn't a link to another birther nut website.

The last I heard the law is not "American until proven otherwise. At this point Arnold is eligible, George Soros is eligible, the anchor babies on the border are eligible, today's illegal alien could be tomorrow's Commander In Chief with this "American until proven otherwise" attitude.

And to think that THIS President's now getting ready to shove his so-called "Immigration Reform" down the throats of the American people is, in my opinion, somewhat of a conflict of interest and "president" Obama really should recuse himself from having anything to do with the debate and anything else to do with the Amnesty bill.

When public officials accuse the American people of being "conspiracy theorists" and "nuts" when they simply don't take their word for something, that's not only insulting, it is the worst kind of chutzpah.

73 posted on 04/19/2011 7:53:33 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Jim Noble

you sound realistic and logical
J Noble you have my vote


89 posted on 04/19/2011 8:10:41 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Jim Noble
Birtherism is problematic because some birthers mix fact with speculation and outright lies.

So, you believe that Barrack's parental grandfather, who was poor and disabled at the time, along with his step grandmother shelled out the money for two people to take a trip to Hawaii to see their third grandchild born?

Sarah Obama said she was at the hospital at the time of his birth. So, that is what would have had to happen if she meant a hospital in Hawaii.

148 posted on 04/19/2011 1:48:56 PM PDT by RINOs suck
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