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Calling all Hawaiians [Birth certificate]
WND ^
| April 19, 2011
| Joseph Farah
Posted on 04/18/2011 10:52:12 PM PDT by RobinMasters
Now we have a new story from the former health director in the state of Hawaii.
Even if the president of the United States wanted his long-form birth certificate, he couldn't get it.
No Hawaiians can, Dr. Chiyome Fukino insists.
But, of course, that presents us with another problem.
What about all the other Hawaiians who have managed to secure these elusive documents without incident?
How did they do it?
How did Eleanor Nordyke manage to get copies of her twins' birth certificates twins born one day later at the Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital. (You can see those here.)
I'm calling on all Hawaiians to let me know if you have been able to secure a long-form birth certificate from the Hawaii health department in recent years. Send me the image files and tell me your story of how you secured it and what hassles you had or didn't have.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; birthcertificate; certifigate; donaltrump; fukino; naturalborncitizrn
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To: SatinDoll
I agree. if Fukino saw and was 'hands-on' with the document, then why couldn't the Governor find the same document months later? Is Fukino going to show the Governor where the document is? Is the Governor going to ask Fukino to produce the document?
But I will say this - the short form is sufficient to prove that Zero is not a 'natural born' citizen - that is, his father is clearly 'african' and not 'american', making Zero a 'native-born' citizen, not "natural born". from wiki: the core of [the] meaning [of the Presidential Eligibility Clause]. Anyone born on American soil whose parents are citizens of the United States is a 'natural born citizen'". Michigan Law Review, Lawrence Solum (who later rewrote his article in 2010 and changed "parents" to "parent" - likely in order to accommodate Zero's circumstances into his opinion)
Why isn't the argument of native-born versus natural-born being pressed instead of pursuing a non-existent long-form? Pressing the difference seems more logical since one only needs the short-form to do so.
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posted on
04/19/2011 12:13:02 AM PDT
by
blueplum
To: RobinMasters
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posted on
04/19/2011 12:17:30 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
To: Spaulding
He would be taking a big gamble if he has a legitimate one. Look at the servicemen of the country seeing one of there own going to prison when Obama could of stopped him from going along time ago by just showing the BC..
To: deetch
The Democratically controlled legislature has now taken up a bill to CHANGE THE LAW! Do you know the Hawaiian bill number?
To: JoeProBono
It should be stamped on his fore head.
To: Oldexpat
Now that’s a thought no one has come up with before.
To: RobinMasters
Here is something I like to post from time to time:
Let them claim there is no long form.
1st. They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract. A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes. That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (318)
2nd. Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?
3rd. Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything? Like obtaining a passport. That one document is better than a drivers license. It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are. From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean.
Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?
Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a Birth Certificate.
The so called COLB has many flaws with it:
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His fathers race could never have been listed as African. That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960s. So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
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The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan. If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
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The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds. A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
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The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii. Why? Because it was computer generated and not scanned. Guess they forgot to add that back in.
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More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.
The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.
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His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
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The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
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Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death. He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books. Why not post that one?
Those were most certainly BCs and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process. I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. Its a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and Im left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my fathers part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my fathers imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.
From Dreams From My Father (Pg. 26 last paragraph)
So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?
He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mothers belongings. Why wouldnt he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?
It seemed important that he found a document that is called a Birth Certificate and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.
Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC. That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that fishy event.
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posted on
04/19/2011 12:53:55 AM PDT
by
Vendome
("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
To: Michigan Bowhunter
NO long form BC = no passport. So no Hawaiians can get a passport now right?
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posted on
04/19/2011 1:03:20 AM PDT
by
fish hawk
(I'm an Atlas Shrugged Conservative)
To: Oldexpat
This is certainly a possible... But first lets edit out the hyperbole...
State of Hawaii has provided COLBs to people not born in the US & they have used them to claim US citizenship and get passports, etc. Maybe the scandal is bigger than Obama. There is more to this story!
To: jarofants
Instead of the mark of the beast?
To: Red Steel
Fukino no longer works for Hawaii, I wonder what her replacement has to says.
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posted on
04/19/2011 3:14:46 AM PDT
by
opentalk
To: lone star annie
Therefore if Obama wanted to renew and he got his passport before he was 15, he couldnt renew without the long form.That's why "Obama" was allegedly using an Indonesian passport.
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posted on
04/19/2011 3:20:02 AM PDT
by
Fresh Wind
('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
To: RobinMasters
How do Hawaiians get PASSPORTS with NO B.C.????
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posted on
04/19/2011 3:35:39 AM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: Oldexpat
ooooooohhhhh....GREAT POINT!!!! Hawaii IS a HOTBED of LIBERALISM, therefore it is CORRUPT!!
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posted on
04/19/2011 3:36:57 AM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: All
I think what we're all looking for is something like but with some reference, of some kind to OBozo!!
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posted on
04/19/2011 4:02:42 AM PDT
by
harpu
( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
To: Oldexpat
To: RobinMasters
I think it would be a good idea to show what a sample long form BC looks like that is issued from every single state in the country.
Show them off alphabetically.
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posted on
04/19/2011 4:19:17 AM PDT
by
Eye of Unk
(Communism is a diease, a global failure and endorses Barack Hussein Obama.)
To: harpu
I bet what he is hiding would look very much like this showing that Obama was registered in Hawaii, but born in Kenya.
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posted on
04/19/2011 4:29:08 AM PDT
by
Eye of Unk
(Communism is a diease, a global failure and endorses Barack Hussein Obama.)
To: RobinMasters
Here’s my question and it would make birthers like myself believe it is POSSIBLE anyway our “dear leader” was born in Hawaii. DOES ONE SINGLE PHOTO EXIST OF THE MAN AS A BABY IN THAT STATE? I bet not...
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posted on
04/19/2011 4:53:56 AM PDT
by
sevinufnine
(Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
To: RobinMasters
Hawaii started out by covering for Obama, Now they are in the position of having to cover for themselves.
I believe the truth to be that Obama does not have a long form birth certificate and the Hawaiians who testified that he did committed perjury, and are now trying to hide it.
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posted on
04/19/2011 5:14:28 AM PDT
by
Venturer
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