Posted on 04/18/2011 9:22:34 AM PDT by GonzoII
FR is a pro-God, pro-life, pro-family site. If you have a problem with our pro-life positions, you might want to try a site that is more to your liking. Meanwhile, I’ll thank you not to trash our deeply held beliefs here.
TEA = Taxed Enough Already I am a strong conservative.. But I also understand what the TEA in TEA Party stands for...
That is not what it stands for.
It stands for a return to our founding principles which would include a return to traditional American Values.
The Tea Party is simply a revolution against Federal Statism and a return to a Constitutional Republic. That being said, one of the stated rights in the Constitution and in traditional America is the right to life. Abortion was a crime at the time of the founding and continued to be a crime in nearly all states until the 7th Decade of the 20th Century, when by an act of Judicial Tyranny women were suddenly granted the right to murder their own children in the name of "Civil Rights".
Yes we are taxed enough already, but the Tea Party was a reaction to run away regulations and spending and the destruction of State and Local Sovereignty and it was not a response to an increase in our taxes. Indeed, among those whom the liberals want to tax more (those making over $250,000 a year), I dare say that most of them would not identify with the Tea Party Movement. They tend to belong to the Wine and Croissant Party.
I have only seen that little “Taxed Enough Already” on signs at rallies. I don’t believe that is the official name of the Tea Party movement. I believe the Tea Party is a movement of conservatives trying to reaturn this country to it’s founding principles, which are life, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness.
Even still, our local 9.12 group (not called a “Tea Party”) is not willing to touch social issues. I tried to organize a group to attend the march for life & was told that’s a no-no. What BS. I’m finding myself more & more alone with no “party” or movement to identify with. If you people want to seperate fiscal & social issues, be my guest. When you fall flat on your face, don’t say I didn’t tell you so.
Let's see, for the first time in who knows how long, a Republican is in a Massachusetts Senate seat instead of a liberal Democrat. "Ted Kennedy's seat" no less, that's quite a feat since everybody assumed a liberal Democrat would naturally be the successor to that seat. And you know there was no way a staunch conservative could have been elected.
Overall I'd say Brown was quite a bit of progress in the right direction.
I just looked it up, their last Republican senator was Edward Brooke in the 70s, and he was pretty liberal too.
Here we go again. Sacrificing America's first principles: equality and the obligation of government to defend the God-given, unalienable right to life, on the altar of political expediency. Political bookie-ism before first principles.
The Republican Party is morally bankrupt, and this is a great example.
Would 50 million plus more Americans increase the cost of national defense? Nominally at best.
Would 50 million plus more Americans increase the cost of foreign affairs (e.g. the State Department)? NOPE.
Would 50 million plus more Americans increase the cost of national infrastructure? Nominally at best.
Would 50 million plus more Americans increase the cost of running the Treasury Department? NOPE.
Would 50 million plus more Americans increase government revenues? YES.
“FR is a pro-God, pro-life, pro-family site. If you have a problem with our pro-life positions, you might want to try a site that is more to your liking. Meanwhile, I’ll thank you not to trash our deeply held beliefs here.”
Thank you.
re: “What the “purely fiscal” crowd is missing here is that this isn’t just a discussion of “less” funding but rather a discussion of funding priorities.”
I agree, and the funding priority is that we are BROKE!
We can argue against funding Planned Parenthood on at least three counts from the fiscal point of view - first, the government has no business giving money to a private business whether it be GM, GE, the NEA, or Planned Parenthood - therefore it is unconstitutional spending.
Second, cutting off spending to these businesses or groups does not stop the building of cars, or of applicances, or of productions of musical performances, or performing of abortions.
Third - we DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND ANYMORE!!!
The unifying Tea Party argument is that all unconstitutional spending and taxation by the government must be stopped. The rallying cry of the Tea Partiers is “get us back to the Constitution” is it not? Yes, it will have moral implications - that’s unavoidable. But, the Tea Party is not a formal political party that has a variety of political stands or “planks” upon which it stands. No, it is a taxpayer lobbying group pure and simple.
Anyone against unconstitutional, out of control government spending and taxation are welcome to participate in the Tea Party. Let’s keep that as the unifying theme.
then don't join the Tea Party.
The same usurpers who can 'find' a federal right to abortion can also 'find' a federal right to your hard-earned dollars.
Please explain how that will happen.
Give me a break. I’ve attended hundreds of tea parties all across this great land. Speaking of faith and pro-life, pro-family values are always received very well at every tea party event I’ve ever attended. The words “Under God” are always loudly emphasized at every event while reciting the pledge. You cannot separate Creation, Life and Liberty from conservatism or from the Declaration of Independence or the defense of same from the constitution. They are the foundation of our society, our nation and of our grassroots conservative movement.
It has ALWAYS been libertarian.
Wise post, thanks!
I wasn’t aware one “joined” the Tea Party? How exactly does one go about doing that?
If you are fighting against our pro-life position, you are on the wrong website. FR is pro-God, pro-Life, pro-family, pro-Liberty and pro-America! Like it or lump it!!
What???? Pro-Life has been part of the platform of every Republican presidental candidate for over 30 years. It didn't keep Reagan or either Bush from getting elected nor would it hurt any Republican's chances in 2012. A candidate can focus on economic issues and stay pro-life. Keeping a Pro life position is not "making this election all about social issues". Letting people pass out pro life literature will not alienate any Tea Partiers nor is it making pro-life the issue of focus. Banning pro life literature will alienate many conservatives who share every position of the Tea Partiers (indeed they consider themselves Tea Partiers) and would damage the movement tremendously.
This is why the political right is in such disarray. Far too may assume that any movement must be ideologically pure, and all-encompassing.
Hint: Fiscal issues can be addressed without addressing social issues. One does not need to win the entire war in one battle. Waiting for that opportunity guarantees failure.
Anyone with half a brain would understand that you can and should take your victories where you find them. With the Left absolutely exploding the deficit, now is the right time to swing the pendulum back towards fiscal responsibility. The majority of the country can see this easily.
By forcing the Tea Party movement to take on more (and highly divisive) issues merely dilutes its momentum... and leaves the Right on the sidelines once again.
It's not all about you and your pet issues. Sometimes, a mature person needs to support a cause without co-opting it into their own cause.
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