No ‘social issues’ - Pro-life tracts banned at Sacramento Tea Party event

California Catholic ^ | April 18, 2011

[GonzoII]

Bud Reeves, president of the Sanctity of Human Life Network Inc., reports that he was intercepted at a Tea Party rally in Sacramento on Saturday and ordered to stop distributing pro-life pamphlets to attendees.

The event was sponsored by NorCal Tea Party Patriots and held at the Cal Expo in Sacramento. Scheduled speakers, among others, included U.S. Rep. Tom McClintock, Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center and a contributor to Fox News, radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt, and Brad Dacus of the Pacific Justice Institute.

“Today I attended the Sacramento area gathering of the Tea Party to hand out prolife tracts,” said Reeves in an April 16 email. “Given that the Tea Party purports to be an organization promoting the U.S. Constitution and all that it stands for, I thought my handing out of a small prolife tract promoting the most important civil right, the right to life, would be welcome. I was wrong. Not long after we started passing out the 7 thousand tracts we had printed for the event, we were told that we must stop the distribution, which was welcomed by most of the attendees we approached and who received the tract.”

Reeves said he asked why and was told, “Because we will not be involved in the ‘social issues.’ I asked to talk to a supervisor. I was escorted up to the stage area and when a supervisor did not appear, I returned to the crowd to continue handing out the tracts. Not long after I heard my name on the P.A. system, asking me to respond. I did so and was met by Mr. Rapini, the organizer of the Tea Party event.

[metmom]

Since members of the welfare class are more likely to get abortions I would say it would be 50/50.

Actually, since welfare pays per baby, it encourages live births.

I lived in a welfare town long enough and to those deadbeats, children = cash. They don't have abortions, they use the pregnancies to get on welfare in the first place and to game the system.

Unless your number can be verified statistically, then there is no basis to presume that your assumption is correct.

[little jeremiah]

Ah, so you not only think killing babies is fine, but sick and old people too.

Liberaltarians are merely the ultra kook far out fringe anarchy wing of the Left, and you are living proof, revealing yourself by everything you say.

[little jeremiah]

Consumers and producers.

[arrogantsob]

The largest groups on welfare percentage wise are minorities. Just recently someone revealed the numbers for NYC and the largest percentage in racial terms who got abortions were Blacks. A dirty little secret the libs try and hide.

White women make up the largest number because they are the majority of the population. As an example 10% of 100 million is 10 million while 30% of 24 million is 7.2 million.
So obviously the second group is more impacted by abortion.

[little jeremiah]

Morality means a system of what is right and what is wrong. Everyone has one they believe and try to follow.

So when people say “leave morality out of this” what they are realy saying is “leave YOUR morality out of this and let me trump yours with MY morality”.

They are hypocrites.

Plus, there is only one morality, the real one.

And your points about leftists compartmentalizing everything is spot on - since their own beliefs nullify each other, and they are hypocrites to the max, they have no rational basis on which to defend any of their various conflicting points of view. That’s one indication of how liberalism is a mental illness.

[surroundedbyblue]

So let me get this straight.....

Your argument is that since the majority of women having abortions are on welfare (which I’m not certain is true; yes, they are minorities but I haven’t seen proof that there’s a disproportionate number on gov assistance), that makes abortion ok? You’re ok with baby-killing as long as they’re welfare babies?

[little jeremiah]

Kind of like Maragaret Sanger’s views. She wanted to kill off/sterilize minorities.

[Nevadan]

re: “In every poll of life issues, life wins hands-down. When they make it about “choice”... life still wins... but it’s closer.”

You see, you recognize this yourself - that turning the Tea Party into another pro-life group will dilute the support.

What we must never forget is that the Tea Party is one large taxpayer lobby group. It is the ONLY lobby group speaking out directly on behalf of ALL taxpayers regardless of political lines. If conservatives, of which I am one and doggedly pro-life, try to turn the Tea Party movement into a distinctly pro-life lobby, it will reduce it’s impact on government spending and fragment the Tea Party momentum.

Millions of American voters want the insane spending and taxation by our governments to stop - that will also stop the spending by the government on social issues as well. Independents involved in the Tea Party will support cutting government funding to Planned Parenthood, the NEA, the Dept. of Education, the EPA, etc., because all these things are tremendous drains on the taxpaying American - things we can no longer afford.

Getting the fiscal house in order IS the Tea Party. Millions of Tea Partiers happen to also be pro-life, pro-second amendment (pro-gun), and anti-illegal alien - others are not, but what unifies us is stopping the out of control spending. Get the spending under control and that will help greatly to stop the spending on social/moral issues as well.

[surroundedbyblue]

Well, we know that some “conservatives” like Dick Scaife (owner of Trib Total Media) are a-ok with Margaret Sanger:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/valleynewsdispatch/s_724838.html

Just digusting. What a freakin’ racist. These people are NOT conservatives. They can call themselves whatever they want, but that dosen’t make it so.

[Gene Eric]

bfl

BTW, the prevailing Libertarian position that it’s okay to kill the unborn because the nascent human is captive to the womb of the female is absurd. Libertarian extraordinaire, John Stossel, who I like, is gravely wrong on this issue.

[wagglebee]

Yes, I am well aware of the statistics.

Blacks account for about 35% of abortions, but that doesn't mean that the number of them that are on welfare would be any larger than the percentage of blacks on welfare in general.

Many abortions are performed on white women in college or just out of college, having a baby would not in itself result in them being on welfare.

[wagglebee]

You’re ok with baby-killing as long as they’re welfare babies?

I see that a lot around here.

[little jeremiah]

I just read the article. That guy calls himself a conservative??? He's obviously lying, if he knows anything about Sanger he knows her avowed racist eugnenics view. And he makes this assertion, I wonder what the heck he's talking about! $1500 a month for birth control!??? ANd I have never ever heard that PP helps with adoptions.

In Pittsburgh and across America, Planned Parenthood offices help people to make better decisions about whether to have children. They help to arrange adoptions for women or couples unable to raise a child but unwilling to end a pregnancy.

Most of their clients are poor Americans who cannot afford birth-control measures that cost as much as $1,500 a month.

[Reagan Man]

My brief post was pretty innocuous, but to the point. The Tea Party movement will damage their brand if they attempt to purge social issues from their agenda. Period. That includes the pro-life issue, the marriage issue and the homo issue among others. I can't be more plain and to the point then that.

As to your post, you're preaching to the choir. So, no need to get upset. The Founder of FR is a Tea Party member and he assures his conservative brethren that the Tea Party is filled with good social conservative, pro-life Christians. Good enough for me.

Having said that, this conservative will remain vigilant against any and all forms of liberal, libertarian and neocon minorities looking to undermine social conservatism.

>>>>>The common ground among all these things is the spending, spending, spending by our government on these and other things it has no business doing - the Tea Partiers recognize that we can no longer afford any of this stuff because we are flat broke as a nation.

We conservatives have been fighting against big government, the welfare state, excessive spending and social liberalism forever. As far as I'm concerned the Tea Party is an off-shoot of the conservative movement.

Just this morning I've been on several threads that had to do with taxes and spending. Along with ongoing battles against fraudulent efforts of a clown named, Donald Trump and his minions. Also, I've been hitting Boehner and his crew over the head for their measly budget deal with Obama and the Dems. Been giving kudos to Cong Ryan for his courageous 2012 budget proposal.

You see, conservatives can handle more than one issue at a time. We conservatives can juggle fiscal issues and social issues without missing a beat.

[P-Marlowe]

TEA = Taxed Enough Already I am a strong conservative.. But I also understand what the TEA in TEA　Party stands for...

That is not what it stands for.

It stands for a return to our founding principles which would include a return to traditional American Values.

The Tea Party is simply a revolution against Federal Statism and a return to a Constitutional Republic. That being said, one of the stated rights in the Constitution and in traditional America is the right to life. Abortion was a crime at the time of the founding and continued to be a crime in nearly all states until the 7th Decade of the 20th Century, when by an act of Judicial Tyranny women were suddenly granted the right to murder their own children in the name of "Civil Rights".

Yes we are taxed enough already, but the Tea Party was a reaction to run away regulations and spending and the destruction of State and Local Sovereignty and it was not a response to an increase in our taxes. Indeed, among those whom the liberals want to tax more (those making over $250,000 a year), I dare say that most of them would not identify with the Tea Party Movement. They tend to belong to the Wine and Croissant Party.

[little jeremiah]

I notice your nasty comment to wagglebee was pulled. You cannot argue fairly because (a) you lie and (b) you use dirty personal attacks.

[mad_as_he$$]

Winner!

[Pyro7480]

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[PapaBear3625]

TEA stands for "Taxes Enough Already". The TEA Party is for people who want government spending controlled and taxes lowered (or at least not raised).

Period.

Allowing other issues means that people who don't agree on the other issues will leave. Eventually the TEA Party group becomes "People who are against taxes somewhat, really militant about being pro-life, and who want prayers in the schools, but only if the prayers are compatible with their particular little sect".

[EternalVigilance]

If they won’t protect life and liberty, nothing else matters much.

The only ones who can kill the Tea Party movement are the Republican and Libertarian astroturfers, by doing what they always do: destroying the moral basis for our free republic.