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Britain mulling changes to royal succession rule so first-born girl could take throne
Yahoo News ^ | April 16, 2011 | Sylvia Hui

Posted on 04/16/2011 8:21:29 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby

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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

As long as they have laws preventing Catholics from sitting on the throne, I really don’t give a cr_p about England or the people there.

They should end their occupation of Northern Ireland as well; the “colonial era” has been over for decades.


21 posted on 04/17/2011 3:33:16 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
Amen, all freedom loving peoples should have no interest in a minimally talented and generally undeserving family that represents feudalism and obsolete inherited power.

Go watch the queen give her next commands to the Brit Parliament when it convenes every year, disgraceful. I love the Brits, but the royals are an embarrassing blight that should be ceremonial only.

Did I mention the House of Lords?

22 posted on 04/17/2011 9:04:17 AM PDT by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: gandalftb

I like Leslie Nielsen in one of the “Naked Gun” movies, explaining the role of the police department in protecting the British queen during her upcoming visit: “For no matter how silly the idea of having a queen may seem to us...”


23 posted on 04/17/2011 9:58:05 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: gandalftb

Regardless of my own feelings on Monarchy, I have to raise issue with some of your points. At the State Opening of Parliament, the Queen does not give ‘her next commands’, in fact she outlines the government’s agenda for the coming parliamentary session.
The speech is entirely drawn up by the govt. and approved by the cabinet.
She has no real power, Parliament is independent of the monarchy, as symbolised by ‘Black Rod’ at the opening ceremony, who, as Her Majesty’s representative, has the door slammed in his face!


24 posted on 04/17/2011 10:40:51 AM PDT by Mitch86
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To: Sherman Logan

Why? You operate a hereditary allocation of wealth system in the US. You die, your earthly goods and chattels pass to your blood relatives. It’s the same principle.


25 posted on 04/17/2011 1:04:19 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Should have been done some time ago. Needs to be done in the next few months. What happens if Kate and Will have a baby daughter?


26 posted on 04/17/2011 1:05:22 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

The throne would go to the next oldest male descendant of Charles, ie Harry. And then it would go to his descendants.


27 posted on 04/17/2011 1:08:07 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: kearnyirish2
The sovereign is governor of the Church of England. How can the governor of the Anglican communion be an adherent of another denomination? The way to solve the problem, of course, is to disestablish the CofE.

Northern Ireland is not occupied. Unless you think that Palestine is "occupied" by the Israelis. It is British because the majority of people there want it to be. When that is no longer the case, sayonara bogland.

28 posted on 04/17/2011 1:11:35 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: gandalftb
You think inherited power doesn't exist in America? That it doesn't exist in every land under the sun? The Brits are just acknowledging the reality that everyone else is too cowardly to admit.

The queen doesn't give any commands to the Brit Parliment. That speech she reads is written by the government, not her.

The hereditary principle has been abolished in the House of Lords. Has been for years.

29 posted on 04/17/2011 1:15:31 PM PDT by Vanders9
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Anyone recall the actor on Saturday Night Live (70s or early 80s) who portrayed Prince Charles selling a book called “How to Pick Up Girls”? It was pretty funny: “I’m not particularly bright, I’m dangerously inbred...”


30 posted on 04/17/2011 2:28:00 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Dana Carvey?


31 posted on 04/17/2011 3:22:57 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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I know it was a British actor/comedian, but I can’t recall his name. I want to say it was one of the Monty Python members.


32 posted on 04/17/2011 3:26:18 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

It seems like something Eric Idle would do. But, Dana Carvey did do some Prince Charles skits on SNL in the 1990’s.


33 posted on 04/17/2011 4:23:11 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Vanders9

“Northern Ireland is not occupied.”

It very obviously is, and I won’t bite at your attempt to intertwine it with non-related matters that can be sorted out by those effected. Demographics will sort it out eventually; Britain doesn’t want it anymore anyway (as it transformed from as industrial base to a population on the dole), but rather maintains a presence at the behest of the Protestant minority they transplanted there centuries ago to displace the native population.


34 posted on 04/17/2011 5:40:31 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
It very obviously is not. There is a Protestant Unionist majority in Ulster. It is not as large as it once was, but it is still a majority.

I dont know what all this nonsense about "intertwined with non-related matters is" - unless you think that the will of the people is unimportant. Interesting concept to adhere to.

35 posted on 04/17/2011 6:25:42 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: GeronL

I think that’s the best thing. Queen Elizabeth II should be the last reigning Monarch of England.


36 posted on 04/17/2011 6:31:59 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Vanders9

They are a plurality, not a majority, and Roman Catholics are far and away the largest religious group there. I think the will of the people is very important, though the US is a republic, not a democracy.


37 posted on 04/17/2011 6:33:43 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
Protestants? Catholics? Plurality? What has that to do with it? The issue is not the religious affilliation of the people, but the constitutional status of Ulster. Not all Protestants are unionists. Not all Catholics are nationalists (although those who aren't have been mostly tarred and feathered into oblivion). Not that it matters. Britain, like the US, has a civic not an ethnic definition of citizenhood. Whatever their faith, or indeed lack of it, I believe they are the ones who should decide how they are governed, and by whom.

The US may be a republic, but it still operates on democratic principles, so the point stands. It is, is it not, "government of the people, by the people, for the people"?

38 posted on 04/17/2011 7:51:16 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: MinorityRepublican; GeronL

Not your decision to make.


39 posted on 04/17/2011 7:52:41 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Mitch86; kearnyirish2; Vanders9
The Brit Cabinet writes the speech and it purports to set the legislative agenda for the coming year. Why don't they just email it to everyone? Here's why: here's a link to the 2009 "Her Majesty's Most Gracious Speech"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/house_of_lords/newsid_8364000/8364950.stm

Listen to it. In every instance the queen states "my government". As if a government of free people were just so much property.

We do not have inherited power, we have inherited wealth. Wealth that is earned, fairly or not, but it is earned. Any power that is derived from that wealth is always subject to the consent of our free people.

The queen and the royals, by accident of birth, claim dominance over the Brit Parliament and Brit people. Free Irishmen never put up with it and neither will I. My ancestors paid in blood for every freedom we have and I would never soil their sacrifice with any even symbolic nod towards any king or queen or royals of any kind.

40 posted on 04/17/2011 8:52:37 PM PDT by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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