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you and all of your friends here just refuse to accept a few basic realities. Your kind has always been that way frequently with disastrous consequences for the nation. So lets get back to the reality that you are ignoring:

1.) you are the socialist(s) here, not me. You want to take other people's money and use it to fund socialist enterprises. If you can't get the money through taxes, you seem perfectly willing to borrow or print more money even though that is destroying the country. You try to cloak your arguments with conservative wrapping paper, but it's still a box full of socialism inside. So, that makes y'all the socialists in this argument. I am the conservative here, not you

2.) you ignore the $1.6 trillion budget deficit and how we came to it. Your attempt to make that about aircraft carriers and subs or welfare checks or planned parenthood or euthanasia, or christian ethics is a non-sequitur, nobody here is arguing for more of any of these things.

3.) and, once again, you are the one(s) arguing for government rationed/controlled healthcare here, not me. It's the gravy train and, as I have already stated, the 1.6 trillion dollar budget deficit is going to apply the brakes to that train whether you like it or not. That's what happens when people put social agendas ahead of fiscal responsibility. Don't get mad at me though, I put fiscal responsibility way ahead of any social agendas. I am not, in any way, responsible for our financial dilemma.

you and all of your friends here just refuse to accept a few basic realities.

What are those, that some people need to be killed to save money?

Your kind has always been that way frequently with disastrous consequences for the nation.

Spoken like a true leftist, "Please let us kill whoever we want and then all will be Utopia."

you are the socialist(s) here, not me. You want to take other people's money and use it to fund socialist enterprises.

You mean the money that people have ALREADY PAID for healthcare?

I don't care what YOU want to call yourself, but you are a statist death monger who wants the state to kill of those it deems unfit and keep their money.

you ignore the $1.6 trillion budget deficit and how we came to it.

The budget problems stem from the fact that you and your ilk conspired to MURDER an entire generation of taxpayers. Roe v. Wade interfered with economic growth in ways we are just now beginning to realize.

and, once again, you are the one(s) arguing for government rationed/controlled healthcare here, not me.

No, YOU are the one saying that a person in a government healthcare program should be left to die if the government decides that healthcare that the person has ALREADY PAID FOR is too costly.

Don't get mad at me though, I put fiscal responsibility way ahead of any social agendas.

We know you do, your type ALWAYS puts money ahead of human life.

“This person suffering from hereditary defects

costs the people 60,000 Reichmarks during his lifetime.

People, that is your money. Read ‘New People’.”

You are foolish and ignorant. Before the government “helped” with Medicare, we didn’t face these kinds of questions. Insurance was sufficient and used only for medical emergencies and hospital stays. Medicare killed the insurance industry by removing a huge chunk of payers in 1965 and rates went up. GOVERNMENT interference has preceded every “disaster” in the economy, not any actions by those who believe people have the right to life. Everytime government interferes they justify it by claiming they are helping when they are actually taking more control (Obamacare). Now they have the clueless, like you, clamoring for the deaths of the helpless in order to “control costs”. Welcome to socialism and Nazi Germany comrade.