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To: RC one; wagglebee; trisham; DJ MacWoW
there are numerous examples of identifying genetics abnormalities

Which guarantees nothing.

Perhaps the Roman Catholic church would like to start footing the bill for the healthcare costs of people who made poor personal choices? I suppose they're too busy fighting for amnesty for illegal aliens to be bothered with that though. Me, I just want the government and the taxpayer out of the healthcare industry. period.

If all someone has is government healthcare, as in this case, you'd rather just kill them off?

Every medical procedure was revolutionary and cost prohibitive at some point. As it was practiced and refined and became more widely used, the cost came down.

Following your line of reasoning, anyone without private health insurance should just die, no matter what it is that ails them.

No setting bones, no appendectomies, no insulin, no antibiotics. If they can't or won't pay for it, they die or live with the consequences if the injury doesn't heal right. Right? Is that what you're really advocating?

40 posted on 04/14/2011 4:31:42 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
No setting bones, no appendectomies, no insulin, no antibiotics. If they can't or won't pay for it, they die or live with the consequences if the injury doesn't heal right. Right? Is that what you're really advocating?

you are completely full of it. Go back to my OP and you'll see that I said taxpayers should not be footing the bill for medical expenses that arise from personal choices that are known to have serious longterm health consequences.

Every medical procedure was revolutionary and cost prohibitive at some point. As it was practiced and refined and became more widely used, the cost came down.

if that were true, healthcare would be affordable without insurance, private or government, as it once was. Due to the governments intrusion into a once free market, the entire industry has become bloated, overpriced, and inefficient. The taxpayers are being bilked by the government and the healthcare industry and it has led to where we are now, broke and facing a $1.6 trillion budget deficit. Do you not understand the implications of a $1.6 trillion budget deficit? Do you not see the gravity of our fiscal situation?

42 posted on 04/14/2011 5:06:21 PM PDT by RC one (Donald Trump-I'm listening.)
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To: metmom
No setting bones, no appendectomies, no insulin, no antibiotics. If they can't or won't pay for it, they die or live with the consequences if the injury doesn't heal right. Right? Is that what you're really advocating?

Well, if they won't pay for it, they have made their choice, haven't they? People should have that right.

And as for "can't" pay for it, the subsidization of medical care has made it overly expensive. There is a whole lot of effective medical treatment that could be delivered very inexpensively. But those treatments are not often used because there is always somebody else paying the bill.

Human medicine should be a lot more like veterinary medicine. You get your regular check-ups, vaccinations and treatment at a reasonable price. Then if you get something that is going to be really expensive to treat, you have some tough decisions to make about how to spend your own money. Some people may save throughout their lives so they have something set aside for this rainy day, and others may decide to enjoy their money while they are young and healthy, so their options will be more limited. People should be free to make that choice as well.

43 posted on 04/14/2011 5:19:07 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you can read this / (To paraphrase on old line) / Thank a TAXPAYER!.)
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To: metmom

Thanks for getting on this thread, metmom. This RC one is some sweetheart, isn’t he? (I’d bet money it’s a he...crude and focused on only one thing: money.)

Sure wouldn’t want him as a neighbor.


44 posted on 04/14/2011 5:33:42 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: metmom; RC one; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; ...
If all someone has is government healthcare, as in this case, you'd rather just kill them off?

RC is a statist, statists LOVE death panels.

Every medical procedure was revolutionary and cost prohibitive at some point. As it was practiced and refined and became more widely used, the cost came down.

Statists really don't care about that, for them it's all about being able to kill of the untermenschen.

50 posted on 04/15/2011 5:41:56 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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