Anyone who still does not have everything they think they will need in the future is really nuts.
Holy shit! Say goodbye to any new Saiga shotguns!!!!!
Might have to get another one, if the prices haven’t yet gone to the Moon.....
Since New York State already bans centerfire rifles for hunting except in the extreme northern part of the state, all they will allow for deer and bear are shotguns.
The BATFE needs to be disbanded. It serves no useful purpose other than to enforce liberal agenda.
McDonald v. Chicago involved a 2nd Amendment challenge to a Chicago ordinance that essentially banned private handgun ownership in the city.
In 2008, a divided Supreme Court, in District of Columbia v. Heller , struck down similar District of Columbia legislation on the grounds that it violated an individuals 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear firearms for lawful uses such as self-defense in one’s home. But the Court declined to say whether this 2nd Amendment right applies to the states and local governments and not just the District of Columbia, which is under federal jurisdiction. The Court answered this question in McDonald.
In a five-four split decision, the McDonald Court held that an individual’s right to keep and bear arms is incorporated and applicable to the states through the 14th Amendment's Due Process Clause. Writing for the majority, Justice Alito observed: “It is clear that the Framers and ratifiers of the Fourteenth Amendment counted the right to keep and bear arms among those fundamental rights necessary to our system of ordered liberty” (p. 31). “The Fourteenth Amendment makes the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms fully applicable to the States. ” In a separate concurring opinion, Justice Thomas wrote that the 2nd Amendment is fully applicable to states because the right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment as a privilege of American citizenship.
The Court did not rule on the constitutionality of the gun ban, deciding instead to reverse and remand the case for additional proceedings. However, the courts decision on the 2nd Amendment makes it clear that such bans are unconstitutional. But, as it held in Heller, the Court reiterated in McDonald that the 2nd Amendment only protects a right to possess a firearm in the home for lawful uses such as self-defense. It stressed that some firearm regulation is constitutionally permissible and the 2nd Amendment right to possess firearms is not unlimited. It does not guarantee a right to possess any firearm, anywhere, and for any purpose.
The dissenting judges argued that the right to own guns was not “fundamental” and therefore states and localities should be free to regulate or even ban them. They said the Heller decision on which the Court relied heavily was incorrect and even if correct, they would not have extended its applicability to states.
So the BATFE argument that a shotgun not suitable for "sports" is a red herring and has no standing in law> I won't get into the HELLER case:
I wonder if “sport” can be extended to hunting liberals?
“generally recognized as particularly suitable for a readily adaptable to sporting purposes.”
For the record...I just re-read the Second Amendment. I don’t find that exception in there...ANYWHERE.
BATFE needs to be eliminated. Defund them.
And the sporting test: Practical shooting is not a sport now?
Motherhuggers, all.
Many great evils arrive with many small steps.
of course those things are needed for sporting purposes, for shooting cans....etc..
sfl
Any American made versions of these, or are they banned under different regs? Not saying I like these unconstitutional regs, but exploring work-arounds...
The 2nd Amendment is about the violent overthrow of the government. It is not about hunting or thieves( common, not political ).
It listed items on a rife that would cause it to be designated an "Assault Rifle".
This is nothing more than the beginning of the ban on shotguns.
It lists items any one ( 1 ) of which would deny importation.
An example: a flash suppressor or a muzzle brake that also suppresses flash;
Most shotguns made today use screw in choke tubes.
Any screw in choke tube that has ports or is ventilated could easy be designated to be a flash hider.
a light enhancing device;
A Leupold Scope or an Aim Point?
an integrated rail system other than on top of the receiver or barrel;
A Cantilever barrel for your deer hunting slug gun?
an “excessive” weight of over 10 pounds;
Most 10 ga Side by Side double barrel shotguns weigh between 10 and 12 lbs. BTW many of them are made in Spain.
Death by a thousand paper cuts.
Ban importation, then ban domestic production, then ban possession.
Worry about your Saiga if you like.
BATF wants all your Mossbergs, Remingtons and Winchesters.
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Constitutional Refuseniks(Oathkeepers) Very interesting read & thread
I suppose an e-mail to the effect that “You BATFE thugs are domestic enemies of the Constitution” would win a person an all-expense-paid cruise to Lisbon aboard a Portugese Man o’ War.