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Ending Medicare as we know it?
American Thinker ^ | 4/10/11 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/10/2011 12:40:55 AM PDT by Nachum

Mark Steyn in NRO:

Ending Medicare as we know it? Say it ain't so! Medicare, we hardly knew ye! It's an open question whether Americans will fall for one more chorus of the same old song from Baucus, Harkin, Podesta, and the other members of America's wrinkliest boy band. But, if this is the level on which the feckless patronizing spendaholics of the permanent governing class want to conduct the debate, bring it on:

Paul Ryan's plan would "end Medicare as we know it."

The Democrats' "plan" - business as usual - will end America as we know it.

Literally, as Representative Wasserman-Schultz would say. One way or another, Medicare as we know it is going to end. So, if you think an unsustainable 1960s welfare program is as permanent a feature as the earth and sky, you're in for a shock. It's just a question of whether, after the shock, what's left looks like Japan or looks like Haiti.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ending; know; medicare

1 posted on 04/10/2011 12:40:56 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum; doug from upland
It sounds like something Doug might have done.

It's The End Of Medicare As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)

2 posted on 04/10/2011 12:47:59 AM PDT by magslinger (What Would Stephen Decatur Do?)
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To: Nachum

I hope so.

Hubby was FORCED to take it [*and* pay for it] even though we have the best health insurance money can buy.

Now, rather than *it* being used for his medical care, lousy Medicrap has to be used *first* and the good insurance picks up the leftovers.

Medicrap fights over every thing he needs and God forbid he ever needs surgery they think “pointless”, he’s screwed.

KILL IT NOW.


3 posted on 04/10/2011 12:52:37 AM PDT by Salamander (I made friends with a lot of people in the Danger Zone.teds herer)
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To: Nachum
"Ending Medicare as we know it?"

ObamaCare socialized medicine does that. Puts everyone on medicare.

Bettter start with ending ObamaCare first, it's already on the books.

yitbos

4 posted on 04/10/2011 12:57:07 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Salamander
look....all of you out there with those cushy medical benefits at retirement and those plush defined pensions can do without Medicare and SS....but there are millions of us out here who have worked just as hard and as long as anybody in important fields WITHOUT defined pensions and retirement medical benefits...

so go ahead and index both Medicare and SS.....you who don't need it can just do without it.....

5 posted on 04/10/2011 3:10:34 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Excuse Me. You said what?

So once again those who make better choices are punished for it?

Long term effects of that are to reinforce the bad actions. If people are rewarded to doing the wrong thing then more and more people will start to do the wrong thing.


6 posted on 04/10/2011 5:34:15 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Islam is the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids & comforts the shark on it's journey.)
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To: Salamander

I know what you are saying.

Since I started working almost 50 years ago I have paid into BC&BS, when I became 65 I was placed on Medicare. I did not ask for it, I was placed on it. and of course I had to pay for it. So I looked into BC&BS as a supplement to medicare and the supplement plan was almost s high as the origina plan, so I just kept it, and now they pay waht Medicare doesn’t pick up.

I never minded paying the $20.00 co-pay at the Doctors and as far as I can see that is the only real difference between what I have now and what I had before.

Medicare did not help me , it helped BC&BS it was a plan to save the health insurance companies, not the buyer.

It won’t hurt me to do without it, as I still have BC&BS.

Medicare should be for the elderly without insurance, not for those who have insurance.

It doesn’t need killing it needs reforming, but please, God, let someone with common sense do the reforming ,and not the idiots who wrote Obamacare.
Obamacare is not health care reform in any way shape or form.It is the biggest piece of crap ever written.Nancy Pelosi’s name should go don with other criminals of the world like Attilla the Hun, and Stalin.


7 posted on 04/10/2011 6:11:25 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Nachum

Party’s over.

As Mark says, it’s just a matter of whether we look like Haiti, or look like Japan, when we wake up the next morning.

But also like he says, Medicare ENDS either way, along with Social Security and lots of other goodies. The boomers milked them for all they were worth.


8 posted on 04/10/2011 7:08:08 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts))
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To: Venturer; cherry

“Medicare should be for the elderly without insurance, not for those who have insurance.”

Exactly!

*Because* Medicare is now, by -force- his “primary insurance”, he can NOT get high-tech painless treatments such as laser kidney stone removal that our BC/BS covers...he’s got to take the “cheaper” pound-your-guts-loose sonic method.

That’s just one example off the top of my head and my husband has NEVER worked “cushy jobs” as one poster assumed.

At 17 he joined the Air Force, then went on to do 50 hard years of manual, blue collar labor.

After years of being a long haul trucker, [his “easiest” job] he retired as a “lowly” welder at the state prison.

We’re not “rich snobs who can afford candy insurance”.
[or whatever she called it]

We’re middle class schmucks, struggling to get by *but* we pay the premiums because we want the best care and we have to sacrifice other “luxuries” to do so.

He’s -earned- his retirement but *can’t* retire because his pension isn’t enough for the crashed economy so he’s not one of those fortunates who can just sit back and enjoy his golden years.

He’s 67 and works 16 long, hard hours a day *just* so we can have good insurance and “luxuries” like decent food for our dogs, electricity and good insurance...even *after* having a _triple-freaking bypass_ last year.

He couldn’t even take off the recommended 3 month recuperation time...he’s got to keep working like a dog just to get us by.

If *you* -want- Medicare, fine.

It should NOT be forced upon others who want nothing to do with it and have to work even *harder* to afford the -mandatory- payments for it.
[and then there’s the really “fun” catch...if he -doesn’t- pay for the -forced- Medicare...they’ll cancel our state employee BC/BS and ~I’ll~ have NO insurance.

How’s that for government blackmail?]

And Cherry, FYI, now that he’s had a bypass surgery, Medicare has basically told us that if he ever [God forbid] needs further surgery for anything related to it, _tough sh*t._

They weren’t “happy” about paying for the the one he had and they don’t consider him ‘valuable’ enough to society to pay for another.
[”death panel” ring any bells?]

So tell me, Cherry, if Medicare told you they’d just let the man you love more than life itself die, no matter how much *other* -good- insurance he has that -would- cover further treatments, how would YOU feel?

-Free- those of us who are being held hostage by forced Medicare.

.


9 posted on 04/10/2011 9:07:08 AM PDT by Salamander (I made friends with a lot of people in the Danger Zone.teds herer)
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To: PeteB570

“So once again those who make better choices are punished for it?”

Yup.

It’s probably considered “redistributing the health”.

Ain’t socialism grand?

/s


10 posted on 04/10/2011 9:09:54 AM PDT by Salamander (I made friends with a lot of people in the Danger Zone.teds herer)
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